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The 2024 Presidential Election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by adoo, Jul 15, 2024.

  1. DaDakota

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    Just allow voting by our cell phones....it will be counted automatically....no need to get in line, no need to go anywhere, just everyone vote by their phones......

    Sure you can still go to the machines if you want, but with today's tech, there is no need to.

    DD
     
  2. Rashmon

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    The main difference is that different states have different laws regarding when mail-in-ballots can be processed.

    Florida law allows mail in ballots to be start being processed 22 days before election day. Mail in ballots must be counted by the day before election day.

    Other states can be more strict on when processing can start. For example in Pennyslvania, the mail in ballots cannot start being processed and start being counted until 7am election day. So that's when people can verify address, signature, whether ballot is filled out properly etc.

    Some states won't allow counting to begin until after polls closes on election day.

    Also different states have different laws on when mail in ballots must be received. Some requires the ballot to be received by a certain time on election day. Some only require the ballots to be post marked by election day.

    EDIT: Also, most states are 'called' for a particular winner within hours of polls closing because the results aren't usually that close. So you can make a really accurate projection based on only a small percentage of counted votes. In states where the results are insanely close like Michigan or Pennsylvania where the winners are separated by a few thousand votes, you'll need to count nearly all of the ballots before making a call.
     
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    Lol
     
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    This could be good training for working prison lunch line...
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  10. Kemahkeith

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    Trump fails the food safety audit.
    No hair restraint, no gloves, you can only wear smooth bands as in wedding on arms. No cuff links.
    I wonder if he sang happy birthday for 20 seconds while he washed his hands.
    I wonder if he even washed his hands.

    Good thing they vetted the drive thru actors.
    Any of that hair falls into your fries and the DNA might open up a floodgate of new charges or would most likely be sold on EBAY.
     
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  11. Rashmon

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    Just reading the names of the "sources" for these tweetstorms can be a hilarious commentary on their potential veracity...

    Didn't think Mungo Jerry were so politically active and such vigilant foxes...
     
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  12. JuanValdez

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    NYT had an interesting article (with some great graphs) about how skewed past election polls have been. It is somehow not behind their paywall: What Past Polling Misses Can Tell Us About the 2024 Election - The New York Times.

    One interesting takeaway is that the polls missed 2020 worse than 2016 nationwide. The problem was they missed in some key states in 2016 that flipped the election. The 2020 misses didn't. Of concern, I suppose is that after several elections where they undercounted Democrats, these last 2 election pollings undercounted Trumpers. Have they managed to correct their mistakes? Idk. I think you're right now to trust them.

    Looking forward to when voter registration is just done online. You can make an account, you have a password, it'll send you notifications, you can upload the documents that prove your citizenship and residency, it can tell you if your felony disqualifies you, it'll send reminders to renew or a notification that some Republican is trying to purge you from the voter rolls, it can also remind you when some obscure election is coming up for you. I'd also like to vote online, but I know there will be a lot of handwringing about that. So, start at least with voter registration. It's ridiculous we're still issuing postcards for voter registration. You can file taxes online, you can fill out the FAFSA, you can register for Selective Service, you can get a Social Security Admin account -- why can't get you register to vote? It would be a ton easier to keep clean voting rolls without trammeling on people's voting rights if you have effective two-way communication via an online account.
     
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    There is not a lot to do once you Gone to the Country and you want to get away.
     
  14. Space Ghost

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    You are completely right. The data is already there and the infrastructure is setup. It can be a national voter database that a user can manage, including verification of address, eligibility and upcoming races.
     
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    I think the independent polls are closer to the real number now. However, sites like 538 average all the polls together to make an overall number. We did not have all of these R leaning polls in 16 and 20. They are skewing the numbers. That is why I do not trust these overall poll averages that people are pushing.
     
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    We just saw Republicans try to force delays in providing official tallies in GA just to be blocked by a judge. We could easily know if we'd all agree on processing ballots as they come in using automated machines.
     
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    The votes are counted by hand in Germany. Official results still in late at night, or early next morning.

    I'm not blaming either side; just don't understand what's so hard about it.
     
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    Most elections haven't been close. 2000 was of course the closest and we ultimately didn't know for weeks. We knew 2020 results by the morning, just not the final tallies.
     
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    Maybe they have way more people doing the counting? But counting millions of votes starting around 7pm (and it gets worse given we actually have 5 time zones) by hand is time consuming.
     

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