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VP Nominee Tim Walz accused of Sexually assaulting a student in 1997… alleged victim speaks out

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by StroudAndYorDaddy, Oct 16, 2024.

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Do y’all think Tim Walz is guilty

  1. Yes he’s guilty

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  2. No.. the kid is lying

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    46.7%
  1. FranchiseBlade

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    No, they don't. The victims aren't always the same "type". They may have one common trait such as age, sex worker, or they may be different in many ways. The thing that is consistent is the MO of the assaulter or rapist.

    I'm trying to make this simpler for you, because Trump and his defense team were able to try and make the same claims you are making in a trial. The jury found his defense wasn't credible.

    Robert Anderson from Michigan didn't even confine his sexual assaults to victims of the same gender. There are so many variances.
     
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  2. Jugdish

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    It's also obviously something a PR person came up with, as everyone on Trump's side started using it immediately that weekend. "New talking point dropped, boys!" Much like Vance pounding away on Kamala's "platitudes".

    Let’s dispel once and for all with this fiction that MAGA doesn’t know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.
     
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  3. pgabriel

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    I don't care that Trump lost. I get it

    Im not trying to make an argument for argument's sake, in cases of serial offenders we usually see a similar pattern and similar victims. That's why Trump's team was trying to argue that

    Them losing doesn't change it from being the norm.

    I mean really if the allegations against Trump were true he would be the most out of control dick in the history of the world
     
  4. pgabriel

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    It's a standard cliche'. No one came up with it to excuse something.

    It's like saying boys will be boys
     
  5. dobro1229

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    Trump openly admits that he essentially was. It's like his thing he bragged about for years, and still will if asked. I don't know why you keep coming back to this nonsense, and act like Trump wasn't Trump back in the day. You say you are 49 but I really have a hard time wondering where the hell you've been?
     
  6. Jugdish

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    Sweet summer child
     
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  7. pgabriel

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    Come on bro I don't like Trump either but let's not make stupid argument he has the most uncomfortable libido ever

    The most uncontrollable libido ever but didn't surface untill 2016
     
  8. dobro1229

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    The dude literally raw dogged a p*rn star weeks after his wife just gave birth. Yes... he did have the worlds most uncontrollable penis or at least he tried to. I don't know why you keep wanting to act at though Trump isn't who he said and acting as he was.

    And yes, pre 2016 he was actually MORE open about his sexual escapades. Again go watch a recording of one of his Howard Stern appearances and come back and tell me he was a choir boy, and post 2016 this sexual predator was just something "The Libs" just made up.
     
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  9. DonnyMost

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    So looks like this was complete bullshit, yes?

    This is just a taste of the chaos AI/deepfakes will bring upon us.
     
  10. jchu14

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    It's terrifying. It's now good enough to fool extremely casual observers or people with an agenda to spread misinformation with an 'if true' caveat. Soon it'll be good enough that you'll need to be an expert and specialized tools to discern real from fake. But you can't trust 'experts' on social media either since they can be faked too. Eventually it'll be so good that even experts can't be fully confident in their assessment.

    I don't know if there will be an answer and it's scary.
     
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    In the almost 20 years since, Mr Trump has called his eldest daughter “voluptuous”. He’s said it’s OK to describe her as “a piece of ass”, though she is a senior executive in his business empire. And he’s said that, if she wasn’t his daughter, “perhaps [he’d] be dating her”.

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...t-unsettling-comments-a-roundup-a7353876.html
     
  12. Invisible Fan

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    Over time, people will have to learn to keep their own AI assistants that can trawl the web, aggregate the info out there and give red, yellow, green responses to what is agreed upon or confirmed.

    That way if someone tries to flood the zone with garbage, our attention is mostly on the stop lights while the assistant does the dirty work of getting reliable info.

    It can still be gamed/hacked, but it makes it a ****ton easier to track all the datapoints we have to sift through in a day.
     
  13. Invisible Fan

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    BTW, leave it up to Repugs to twist an act of kindness at time when it was still shunned upon into another big dirty lie.
     
  14. Nook

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    The person is a real person. They did go to the school where Walz was a teacher --- the person has in the past identified as LGBTQ and transgendered - they also have been homeless for the better part of half a decade.

    Having said that - the video posted is AI - the person has ZERO mention of it on his Facebook or anywhere else - and several people that are in journalism have said that the video appears to have been heavily manipulated and AI enhanced or changed.

    Someone put a lot of time and effort trying to track down any and all people that could have any connection to Walz - and someone went through the time and expense to find Mr. Metro and then to create an AI video and release it.

    First - it is disgusting, sexual assault - especially of a student by a teacher isn't something to exploit or fake for political gain. Whoever did that did a major disservice to those that have been assaulted by people in positions of power.

    Second - someone has taken a real person, and exploited their life and situation and thrust them into the public discourse likely without their permission.

    Third - It is really sad that I expect this in 2024 after seeing convicted criminals like James O'Keefe and Project Veritas continually alter and distort and in some cases produce completely false "information" around the time of Presidental Elections and have some people believe it. Project Veritas is funded by far right PAC's and donors - while knowing that the information is largely manufactured.

    I hope whoever produced the video of Mr. Metro is sued and exposed for the POS that they are - and everyone that has posted it should question what they are doing.
     
  15. juicystream

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    Jill Harth was also before he ever ran for President. It was all the way back in 2005 he was on Howard Stern saying how he would go into the dressing room of beauty pageants. He's always been considered a womanizing playboy. I don't think Trump ever believed his behavior to be wrong. MeToo was really the reason for all of this coming out. Women being fed up with how they have historically been treated by men. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm sure Trump is a rapist or a pedophile, because those accusations seem more out there, but the sexual harassment & assault? Yeah, I'm sure he's done it plenty of times.

    HW was old and meaningless when the the accusations started coming out about him.
     
  16. pgabriel

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    All guys who cheat are sexual predators?

    What about women who cheat?

    He says he.rapes on Stern's show?

    You're actually arguing dude has the worst libido!
     
  17. Two Sandwiches

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    It seems like there's a certain subset of mouth breathers that would have an agenda to prove. The ones, in particular, that don't know the definition of irony.
     
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  18. Nook

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    I am aware than anyone at any time can be accused of sexual harassment or assault.

    I am sure there are people wrongly accused,

    However - when the accusers start numbering an MLB roster, I find it really hard to not believe the accusations.

    Couple that with the long time period over which these allegations have been made - some of the behaviors and comments that Trump has said - and I find it very close to zero that he did not do at least some of the allegations against him.
     
  19. pgabriel

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    You're in law enforcement. Have you seen someone have such a variety of ways they have assaulted and variety of victims?
     
  20. durvasa

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    If you're very rich with plenty of hush-money to spare, constantly putting yourself around young women, think laws don't apply to you, like to joke around about groping women and walking in on them when they're dressing ("boys will be boys!"), have an over-inflated sense of entitlement, and especially enjoy belittling women, then let's say I'm not all that surprised if it turns out you have a long history of unwanted sexual advances that turn into outright assault. Trump fits the profile of a person who'll force himself on a woman while thinking to himself they must really want it and should be overenjoyed that he's giving them the time of day.
     
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