VP Nominee Tim Walz accused of Sexually assaulting a student in 1997… alleged victim speaks out

Jeez, the gullibility of the GOP, and their intractability on truth of Trump's pedophilia......just ignorance to a TEE.

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A very detailed long read. I still don't believe them.

 

There’s a reason why literally zero media outlets on the right are covering this even though of course FoxNews and co. desperately want a big October surprise for Harris/Walz.

If they fell for it, this is the kind of crap that again will get FoxNews having to settle for hundreds of millions of dollars for spreading blatant lies that could get them in legal hot water. So far I’ve seen nobody out there taking the bait.

But we see here Trump activists online in places like this trying desperately to spread disinformation. I know the mods let pretty much everything go here in the name of the 1st amendment but if I was them I would probably at least make the OP change the thread title. Not that Matthew Metro would sue clutchfans but if I was Clutch I still wouldn’t take that chance.

 

A lot of the stories are ridiculous imo. For the record Trump lost one case. Here is the allegation summarized.

Carroll claims she was shopping for an expensive gift, existing the store, happens to run into Trump, asks him to help pay for the gift, ends up in the lingerie section together, and he assaults her.

I need Cheetah 's "unlikely"

 

Crazy how Trump basically doesn’t deny many of them but people always whitewash Trump when he doesn’t even ask them to do it.

I’m not sure if you were around in this country back in the day when Trump was younger and a celebrity but what is now known as sexual assault is kind of what Trump was known for and that was kind of his thing. Go back and watch his interviews with Howard Stern if you can find them.

Yes it was the era, Trump was not alone, and by and large the men of that era were entertained or looked up to his “playboy” persona. Trump came up in the era of Hugh Hefner and wanted to create a persona that was similar. It was his thing.

So look.. dude we can be honest about Trumps past. Trump for all his lies actually doesn’t fight this one that much. So there’s no need for you to come here and try to tell us that water isn’t wet or the sky isn’t blue. Of course Trump was a sexual abuser back in the 80’s, 90’s, and 00’s. If the shoe was on the other foot and Howard Stern or Jimmy Kimmel were running as a Dem for President do you think they would be getting a pass for their past behavior like Trump gets??

 

Im 49 years old. I'm not a Trump fan, I'm disgusted by his recent talk of going after citizens with the military.

That being said, I view Trump as the original reality star so yes I remember him and Ivanka gracing tabloid media front pages very well.

It's one of the reasons I'm adamant about him not assaulting women because there were no allegations back then

 

Back in the day what is now know as sexual assault would have been referred to as “making a move” in many cases. I think you are assuming the accusations are situations of blatant violence against women like Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs or something. Sexual assault has many forms. Some are worthy of prosecution. Some just maybe public shaming and disqualifying of holding the office of the presidency.

And yes there were literally accusations of actual violence too back then even though you don’t remember them. His ex wife in a deposition literally accused Trump of rape and that was known at the time when their divorce was in the tabloids. However later yes she did backtrack those accusations when he ran for president.

So look…. No need to whitewash Trump on something he’s not really asking you to whitewash. He was a POS with women back in the day even though it was glorified back then and now in this era men in power can’t get away with much of that behavior. His behavior would be disqualifying for literally everyone else on this planet.

So I think people just ask the question why Trump gets a pass that literally nobody else on the planet would get, and that speaks to the unhealthy messiah complex that half of this country has with the man. Because we are supposed to be a democracy and not a religious cult. So this conversation is important as a referendum on Trumps as a messianic figure in our politics. Not worth our time to litigate Trump himself on every accusation. Instead turn the tables as ask wtf is wrong with his supporters here in the US?

 

She had corroborating evidence and even Trump’s defense of “not his type” was shot down when he thought about of her for the time was his ex wife.

 

I’m a little older than you and I do remember allegations against Trump. They didn’t make big news because sexual harassment and assault weren’t looked into as much then as they are now.

 

Yes Ivanka did recant so who knows

You're saying he gets a pass, but he wasn't accused

I don't think sexual assault has been "okay" since the 60's as far as women being afraid to press charges.

Remember Anita Hill? The fact is only celebrity sexual assault cases are going to make the news to begin with..

 

Can you elaborate on them

 

Trump was a well known “womanizer” and in his own words was allowed to get away with things. The allegations against him regarding the Miss Teen USA that he would just walk back into the dressing room were made back in 1997.
https://www.politifact.com/article/2016/oct/18/allegations-about-donald-trump-and-miss-teen-usa-c/

 

First I got it wrong, he supposedly asked her for the help. That obviously makes more sense. I still don't believe it

The corroboration is two friends

 

The allegations weren't around back then was my point.

All these allegations are from the past, were any made in real time.

 

Yes she told two friends at the time it happened not years later. Are you saying they were lying?

It also was established Trump did know Jean Carroll at the time, and had opportunity to have assaulted her, and as established did consider her at the time his type.

 

They were made in 1997.

 

One minute he's walking in on teens the next he's assaulting 50 year olds.

That doesn't make sense

Since he became president he apparently has gone limp because now we're back at no allegations

 

So they knew each other? That's how the "story" starts. We understand that, the story would be completely ridiculous if they didn't. It's neither here nor there

 

The evidence was presented and Trump and his attorneys had opportunity to defend. They lost the case.

The parts that you left out of your summary was testimony from multiple witnesses that testified Carrol told them of the assault at the time it happened. There were two other Trump victims of sexual assault who also testified and described similar MO of Trump. There were 8 witnesses plus Carroll that testified on her behalf.

It was a jury that heard all of the evidence and found that Trump had indeed raped Carroll. Whether you, who did not hear the evidence of the case think it was the unlikely is meaningless. It has been tried and Trump lost after being given the opportunity to present a case in his defense.

 

Jean Carroll wasn’t 50 at the time.