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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Salvy

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    Bruh, they aren't supposed to be here....Family separation due to deportation is not Trump's fault, its Biden and Kamala's fault for telling them its okay to come here and then funding their expenses..... J.D Vance has said numerous times the first people to go are the criminals, do you agree that a criminal should be deported? Or do we let him stay because his 2 year old son won't have a dad?

    Its insane that millions of people even entered this country in the first place, I'd understand under normal circumstances that mass deportation is not necessary and unethical but man Biden and Kamala really dropped the ball on this one. Your candidates created this problem and now they want to put the blame and consequences of their mistakes on Trump.... That's stupid and you should know better..
     
  2. Xopher

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    Dude, your parents came over here illegally and had an anchor baby and you are really spouting this ****?
     
  3. fchowd0311

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    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...migration-and-customs-enforcement/2263656002/


    The concentration of hatred over illegal immigrants and a desire in deporting and separating families of powerless people who make your jalapeno poppers frozen pack 4 dollars instead of 10 dollars instead of concentrating that hatred on those with power and wealth who incentivize illegal immigration because they want to reduce labor costs is a good way to signal that your concentration on illegal immigration isn't because they harm you but because you just don't like people who don't speak or look like you. You will attribute things like violent crime to them when literally the only state in the union that tracks violent crime rates between illegals, legal immigrants and citizens is Texas shows that they are significantly less violent per capita than citizens because you are racist.

    I understand I'm not going to change your mind by calling you a racist and at this point I'm not here to change anyone's mind because it's impossible online. I'm here to vent.


    Illegal immigration is a exploitation of labor problem. Not a crime and security problem.
     
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  4. JHarden713

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    Obama deported more people than any president ever.
     
  5. Salvy

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    Lmao, bruh yeah you already made it clear..... I'm aware my parents came in illegally and then had me and I'm an anchor baby..... I'm also aware my parents didn't come in during the Biden and Kamala administration and actually had to work to get ahead and become legal citizens of this country.

    I have also supported immigration and always will, in my opinion immigration is a fundamental piece in the success of a country. What Biden and Kamala have done is not immigration, it is a great disservice and insult to the people in this country. Their incompetence has created a very big problem for the citizens in this country whether from here or El Salvador or India or wherever..... Simple minded people like you think I should support the destruction of our border because my parents at one point were here illegally.
     
  6. Amiga

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    It's everyone's fault, but especially corporate America's and government's that wanted the labor and so they did nothing to discourage the incentive and, secondly, wouldn't do it the right way - legalizing foreign labor in the US. No one should be blaming this issue on just one administration.

    Trump is part of the problem. When he was POTUS and had control of both chambers of Congress (for 2 years), did not address it. When he was running for POTUS and there is a bipartisan bill to address some of it, he got it killed.

    There aren't 15-20 million immigrants (# he said he want to deport) that are criminals. Trump also say he will take away protective status of legal immigrants (Haitians) and depart all of them.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    Ya. I know. Both parties will throw illegal immigrants under the bus.

    One side though will actively use rhetoric like blood libel to make sure targeted hate towards these groups of people intensifies. At least Democrats don't target hatred toward illegal immigrants that can increase things like hate crimes.
     
  8. fchowd0311

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    Shrodinger's illegal immigrant. They are lazy and they are depressing wages by taking physically demanding labor jobs at under minimum wage.
     
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  9. Salvy

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    The whole system is a problem, Trump wasn't perfect. Trump's immigration policy wasn't flawless either. He didn't stop immigration, he can't and he won't if elected again. However having a president that wants to take back control of the border is an absolute must. Kamala also wants to take back control of the border but under her and Joe's watch the border became an issue to begin with... She may be sincere, but people can't take her seriously when the border was destroyed on her watch....

    I'm voting Trump, do I agree with everything he says on immigration? A resounding no.... He is ignorant about many things, for example.... El Salvador

    Recently he was talking $hit on El Salvador because crime numbers were down due to Bukele "sending" criminals here. Hell no, Bukele was putting criminals in prison where they belonged but many criminals were fleeing El Salvador and ending up here. But why do those criminals exist in the first place? Because MS13 started in California and due to deportation these gang members ended up back in El Salvador spreading all the $hit they learned from gangs in the U.S..... Still we can go back, why were so many Salvadorians coming to the U.S? Because the U.S got involved in El Salvador's civil war and funded arms for the corrupt government in El Salvador at the time. Here was the birth of criminals and barbaric animals that ended up in Cali and became a part of MS13 that then got deported and painted El Salvador red.

    Does Trump know this? No, does he care? Not at all.... Do I think its unfair for Trump to talk bad about El Salvador the way he did at some point, totally... But I do understand that Trump's underlying message is the right one.... We needs borders, we needs walls to be a country. I'm not racist because I believe in borders and order.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    The border has ALWAYS been an issue, and I’ve already explained why.

    Trump was RIGHT about one thing: the border CAN be addressed, but it takes Congress. The executive, through EOs, cannot do anything long-term (short term, yes, until the Court strikes them down, as it has under both Trump and Biden admins). The laws are crystal clear on asylum seekers, and EOs have tried to skirt around them in multiple creative ways, but they have all been struck down. The latest one from Biden is currently being challenged and will likely be struck down too).

    Your analysis of MS-13 and the impact of U.S. deportation policies is largely accurate. MS-13 did indeed begin in California, formed by Salvadoran immigrants fleeing a US-backed civil war. As these gang members were deported, they carried the gang’s influence back to El Salvador, where it spread further, fueled by the country's instability and lack of effective governance. But here you highlight an issue that goes all the way back to the 1980s (Carter and Reagan). This again illustrates clearly that the border issue has been a problem for a long time and that no one has seriously addressed it (for the reasons I stated before - American businesses wanting the labor pool and the gov allowing it to happen without addressing it the right way). And again, Trump killed the bill that was designed to help solve part of this problem.

    Trump is part of the problem and has not solved it (again, for 2 years under Trump, Republicans were in control of both the executive and Congress). When the opportunity came to help solve it, he go it killed. He’s not looking after you, me, legal and good immigrants, or Americans - just himself.
     
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    And that's not what Kamala is offering, get over it.
     
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    Kamala's Kollapse -- we saw it tonight, folks. 4 of her staffers literally waived off the interview -- threw in the towel -- after only 20 minutes. This woman is just unfit to serve. She can't even handle Bret Baier for 20 minutes. She's DEI dumb.
     
  14. Mr.Scarface

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    You are an idiot. The interview was only supposed to be 20 minutes and she did fine. Where is Trump’s CNBC or CBS interviews?
     
  15. hitman1900

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    This narrative doesn't quite hit as hard when the orange dude can't answer a simple question and can't talk in complete sentences. For real, does anyone even buy this narrative anyways? Stick to trying to make everybody hate each other, that's probably the only way Trump can win because he's dumb.
     
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  16. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    Sure she did fine. She is more done than twice baked beans. LMAO
     
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    LOL. Maybe she should have danced for 30 minutes like Donny-boy?
     
  19. Mr.Scarface

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    You will get a surprise on 11/5.
     
  20. CrixusTheUndefeatedGaul

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    If the clowns in here weren’t so blinded by their hatred, they would actually appreciate that Trump is very funny.
     
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