That is not how the betting market works. If you think it wrong, then buy Harris and short Trump. Easiest way to put your money where your mouth is.
@Nook Does one need to be a populist to hear "Goldman Sacs" and have negative connotations attached to it? That part confuses me. Most Americans, even college educated middle class voters especially those who have a basic understanding of the 2008 financial crisis don't have positive feelings about Goldman Sacs. So I see no positive value on attaching your economic policy to Goldman Sacs. Also for you clowns who call Harris stupid or incapable.... You guys are bootlicking a dude who doesn't understand what a tarrif is and never worked to achieve something like a law degree or actual real life profession as a lawyer. He hasn't passed tha basic threshold of human competence once in his life yet. The only way you can believe Harris is stupid and Trump is qualified and not stupid is misogyny. Harris is a generic Democrat with above average intelligence for a human who isn't some intellectual. I mean compared to Donald, she might as well be an intellectual.
No she wasn't smart about anything, if she was smart she would stop taking what Trump says out of context for political gain and start speaking her own mind on how she thinks this country could be better if not great again. Look, seriously.... Why even mention Trump? Why give him the attention? All the negative attention they give him is not working, they can't fear people into voting for her especially when Trump was president just 3 and a half years ago and the world was a better place.
I'm not Nook but... I understand your point, but I think you are diving in way too deep. Even for the small percentage that remember Goldman Sachs roll in the 2008 collapse probably still think of them as a financial institution with experts in analysis. Of course many won't put any weight into anything any finincial institutions say. Aligned with your point, they feel like financial institutions are only looking out for speaking to big investors.
Brett asked her about a statement and played a clip from Trump. Harris pointed out the other things Trump has said over and over. She didn't bring up Trump in that instance. Did you even watch the interview?
That's the thing. Do people think an entity that was one of the biggest players in the 2008 financial crisis as credible, sincere etc?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying... A. She should stop taking things Trump says out of context for political gain and B. She should stop bringing up Trump and showering her answer with Trump Trump Trump.... If she is really going for undecided voters they want to hear why they should vote for her and not what Trump said and or did... The only people who enjoy her talking $hit that isn't even true about Trump are woke leftists who are already voting for her.
I agree that many don't but I don't think they tie it to 2008. I think it goes back further. In most cases it's all viewed through their own lens and how they feel about their personal situation and finance.
It does NOT really take an analysis to know that if you deport tens of millions and place a 10-20% across-the-board tariff, you will hurt the economy and increase prices. This is pretty much what every analysis shows to various degrees. Goldman Sachs or any entity confirming that isn't ground breaking. Now, if they said the very opposite...
Quite frankly the best thing going for her is that she isn't Trump. I don't think you understand that. She should absolutely concentrate on Trump and all the unhinged **** he says. Today he just insulted assembly workers in car factories saying children could do their jobs. Kamala should hound on that as an example how little Trump respects the working class. She should shoot all the anti-democratic things he says constantly. She should emphasize constantly how Trump sees the black population exists for a pool for low wage labor work everytime he says illegal immigrants are taking "black jobs". She needs to absolutely scare the public about how psychotic Trump is.
You don't need Goldman Sacs to explain the obvious if you have some charisma and ability to explain things in long form which in a interview like this she could have done.... That's my point. Just explain why your economic policy is better. Don't bring Goldman Sacs into this. If she doesn't have the ability to do that and only can use these short talking points, that's a problem.
Ya'll just don't get it.... People don't care, they don't give a $hit about what Trump said.... Trump says alot of things, some good and some awful. He is an egotistical ahole that has always had what ever he wants. People cannot connect with Trump the rich dbag, however they can connect with Trump the no chill rich guy from TV that isn't scared to call people fat, pigs and especially call out $hitty politicians for how bad they are. There is nothing Kamala or Biden or Tim can say about Trump that will shock people into thinking they shouldn't vote for him. They have heard it all and seen it all by now... However they have also experienced four years of Trump, this is the problem Kamala has. She has been vice for nearly four years now and its not what people want. People generally feel like their lives were better with Trump in office. If Kamala was coming off of a Trump presidency and she was unknown I think she has a legit shot at beating Trump because of how disliked he is but that's not the case. Sorry man but she can't scare people into electing her, she needs to convince people she is a leader not an activist.
Are you talking about the Fox News interview? I haven't watched that. I watched her other interviews, her speeches, the podcasts, and she's doing half of that (her economic policies + Trump tariff and tax cut for the wealthy). The part she doesn't touch on that I disagree with is the deporting millions. That's where she is playing it too safe and it's a lost opportunity. Americans do NOT want to see legal immigrants being deported (Trump is going to deport legal immigrants). They do NOT want to see kids who came here through no fault of their own deported. They do NOT want to see those who have been here for 10+ years, committed no crimes, being deported. They do not want to see family separation, which if Trump gets to do what he said, will be the largest family separation ever in the history of this nation. They could push back on that. She is not doing this, but Bill Clinton did some of this recently (and of course, the right-wing media took it out of context and pushed a false narrative of what he was saying). Clinton said we need to keep criminals out, but we need immigrants for our economy.
There is a hard 30%-40% of the population who vote because their candidate insults fat people and gay people. But it's a hard 30-40% that cannot expand because it's a niche desire for a politician to have. Most normal people don't support whatever politician they support because they insult a lot. What will shock Americans is the ramifications of what a mass deportation of 20, million people would look like and how it would create thousands of instances of families being separated, mass violence, mass prison camps etc. Harris needs to paint a vivid picture of what deporting 20 million humans looks like. There is a certain privlige you have where things like the Trump campaign and the modern ight wing making up fake stories of certain immigrants stealing and eating pets having zero effect on your safety. Many Americans who are outside that hard 30-40% of unwavering support for Trump have the basic empathy skills you don't process to be like "man making up fake stories of an entire population of immigrants doing heinous things that is essentially blood libel really concentrate hatred and violence towards that group and I feel bad for them". Most people have that trait even thoguh you feel like they don't because you don't possess it.
I don't think many of y'all understand how completely unknown Kamala, as a real human being, is to most Fox audiences. My TX relatives have already been trained to scream in disgust when her face appears on TV, but if they watch this interview, they will still dislike her but she's not nearly the demon, or drooling idiot, or raving communist, that a lot of conservative programming has led them to believe. Leftists are making a big deal about Goldman Sacs or whatever, but if you're an average FOX viewer, and you cheered the Cheeto descending his NYC golden escalator, then her name-dropping a financial firm only provides cognitive dissonance with "communism" claims. I don't think it's a big negative for the casual political observer / voter.
I think if this was the 2016 campaign version of Donald Trump where he was better at faking being a populist with his claims about fighting "corruption", fighting money influence in politics etc he'd probably call out Kamala and attack her for saying Goldman Sacs supports her economic policy. His campaign team would make sure to emphasize how Goldman Sacs had a large role in the 2008 financial crisis. 2024 Trump campaign? Not so much. I'm also confused about the leftist part. Leftists are the only group that have negative feelings about Goldman Sacs? There are people who scream about the evils of communism taking over America who hate Goldman Sacs.
Having thought of it this way. Solid point. This may translate to less motivation to go vote AGAINST her.
