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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. Amiga

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    From day one, the Harris campaign positioned themselves as the underdog, even though polls from over a month ago showed them in the lead. They dismissed those polls, calling them inaccurate. She gained momentum after the debate, but it has since stalled (not reversed, but stalled). Now, the campaign is calling it a toss-up, but they believe they have a higher upside and the ground game to win.

    Democrats and those who clung to the early poll numbers—despite the Harris campaign’s warnings—are now offering all kinds of unsolicited advice ('do this, do that').

    As for her being above 50%, I think that’s too simplistic. The partisan divide makes it unrealistic. Trump started at 45% and has gained about 2-3% over the years. Harris, being much less well-known, has more work to do to reach voters unfamiliar with her. The first debate helped her a lot, which is why she pushed for a second debate (and why Trump's campaign, after the disastrous first one, bailed completely on the second). Reaching voters today isn’t easy—some still watch traditional TV, while most others are on social media, podcasts, and so on. That’s why she did a media blitz, including podcasts, aiming to reach millions of potential voters.

    I love The Lincoln Project, but they haven’t been that successful in persuading true independents or Republicans. Their message resonates with me—and probably with you—but I recognize that most people aren’t being persuaded by it. Harris, however, has had more success reaching Republicans through her targeted efforts, which is why we’re seeing more Republicans publicly endorsing her, helping to sway some lending Republicans.
     
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  2. Scarface281

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    I was saying in August the hiding strategy from the Harris campaign was not going to work. She needed more interviews, etc. Then she does those interviews and the more people saw, the more she dropped in the polls. Perhaps the initial hiding strategy was a better one. Or even more, perhaps Kamala is just a really really bad candidate and there was a reason she was the first to drop out of the Dem primaries in 2019 before Iowa.

    One way you can tell a post is AI is the random weird long dashes. It is almost like a chat gpt signature. This reads so funny lol.
     
  3. basso

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    a campaign is a decent proxy for how an administration will function. a disciplined, effective campaign will likely result in the same type of administration. I think we're getting a good picture of what a Kamala admin would look like, were she to win.
     
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    Em dashes are pretty common. I know I use them all the time.

    You associate it with AI?
     
  5. Scarface281

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    That post reads exactly like AI and those dashes are how chatgpt sets it up. Usually people put spaces between the dashes and words but AI does not. It is obvious to me and I've noticed it in many Amiga's posts for a while. Hell I'm gonna run it through AI to see if it thinks so too

    And here is what AI says lol. Breh is making AI posts. It is typically his longer posts that are AI:
    Likelihood it is AI-generated: 80%
    Reasons:
    Overly structured language: The response follows a formulaic structure with clear topic sentences, supporting details, and a conclusion. AI tends to stick to these rigid patterns, unlike human conversational responses.

    Repetitive phrasing: Phrases like “too simplistic” and “unsolicited advice” are repeated in a way that feels unnatural for a human writer, indicating that the text may have been generated based on common AI writing structures.

    Lack of personal voice: The response lacks personal anecdotes, emotional tone, or specific opinions, which would be expected from a human weighing in on a political issue. Instead, it provides general, detached analysis.

    Heavy use of generalized statements: Phrases like "most people aren’t being persuaded" or "aiming to reach millions of potential voters" are vague and don't show specific evidence or personal insight, another hallmark of AI writing.

    Mechanical tone: The writing feels more like a report than a conversation. AI often produces formal, even mechanical responses when discussing complex topics, which can feel disconnected from natural dialogue.
     
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  6. T_Man

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    I totally don't agree with this....

    How someone campaigns and how they govern are 2 different things...

    T_Man
     
  7. durvasa

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    Spaces or not is a matter of style (apparently, MLA style guide recommends not to use them). That's not how you determine whether something is AI.

    Em dashes — no spaces, please!. While many points of punctuation have… | by Kristen McQuillin | Medium
     
  8. Scarface281

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    If you want to believe that is his natural way of writing so be ti, but I notice a clear difference in formatting and style between these longer form posts Amiga has and the shorter ones. Ut is very obvious to me this latest one was AI, and AI itself even agreed (see my edit).
     
  9. T_Man

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    She does not really need to to more interviews; it would be nice if she did Town Halls... Listen to the people, listen to what they want, listen to what is bothering them and listen to what they are asking for... Don't run away from the questions and don't give stock answers...

    This is what helped Obama and Bill Clinton... Get in touch with the people and they in turn will get to know you...

    T_Man
     
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    The one thing that Trump does is he does his own thing no matter if it's right or wrong and he makes the entire camp follow his lead from the top to the bottom...

    Harris is doing the same as Hillary, she is listening to people who ASSUME they know what to do... Bill tried to warn Hillary and she would not listen and now it seems as if Harris is doing the same....

    Hell all Harris camp has to do if they don't want to go out into the streets is watch CNN or MSNBC especially the Abby Phillips show... But it seems as if her camp is counting on Social Media and not giving real talk so that people can see who she is and what she's about....

    I love Colin Allred campaign and how he's calling Ted Cruz out...

    T_Man
     
  11. durvasa

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    What was the AI model and prompt that you used to obtain its assessment that there is an 80% likelihood that particular post is AI-generated? Is any longish post on an internet forum that employs good grammar and spelling "likely" to be AI according to it?

    Honestly, I'd like to run my own posts through it (which I happen to know I've written by myself) and see what it says.
     
  12. tallanvor

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    Kamala , in her book on crime, plagarized a bunch of stuff. She plagarized wikipedia. Haha. Most fake candidate ever. The irony of stealing to write your book on crime....




    This used to immediately disqualify a candidate ( bidens first presidential run)
     
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  13. DaDakota

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    Geez who cares, Trump plagarizes ****ing Hitler, go suck a bag of eggs for your hypocrisy.

    Trump is also
    A convicted felon
    A convicted rapist
    A convicted fraudster
    A conman
    An accused pedophile

    So, yeah......plagarism is a huge problem.....FFS.

    DD
     
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  14. JuanValdez

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    When a business reports losses, they can bring those losses forward to future year tax filings to offset later gains. That's why we had complaints a couple elections ago about certain megarich corporations not paying any tax -- because their present earnings were offset by tax assets accumulated from previous bad years. So, even if the deduction isn't helpful for a startup's first year because they aren't paying any tax anyway, it can eventually be helpful when that startup is turning the corner toward profitability. Maybe it's not enough Year 1 help, but I suspect that you would be even less happy with the plan if it committed more.
     
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    I am waiting for the next desperate “rumor” that Kamala is a pedophile and Tim Walz is actually a woman.
     
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    I'm talking about organizational competence and discipline, not policies.
     
  17. Xopher

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    Trump: Kamala isn't black.

    Aides: Sir, you have to stop saying this ****.

    Trump: Fine... THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS. THEY'RE EATING THE CATS.

    Aides: SIR!

    Trump: Okay. Okay... When you drop your son off at school in the morning, IT comes back that afternoon as a daughter...

    Aides: Goddamnit!
     
  18. T_Man

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    Still don't agree...

    Kamala is not a newbie, she has been in the situation room with Biden.. was she making the final call?? Probably not, was she involved with the discussion on what approach to take?? Maybe..

    But never the less, she was in the room and she understands what does and what does not work...

    T_Man
     
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    "He does have some feminine attributes" said by one of the many dumbasses here in the D&D.
     
  20. Amiga

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    This race would have been over if Trump had listened to his campaign and moderated after his assassination. Instead, he chose to do it his way. He might still win, but if he loses, it will be because of that lost opportunity and a preventable mistake.

    Harris just did a Univision town hall last week and will be doing a town hall with CNN next week. The social media channels and other platforms she engaged with last week ('Call Her Daddy' podcast, 60 Minutes, The View, the Howard Stern Show, and Late Show, among others) have a combined reach of about 10 million. She is trying to connect with a variety of audiences.

    I don't know what Allred has been doing, but I do know I'm voting for him (or against Cruz).
     

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