It's amazing you've been around since 2002. Comparing Sengun to Julius Randle is one of the more bizarre and hilarious things I've seen on here lately.
Reads like just another one of those “we shouldn’t extend Sengun because JG’s feelings would get hurt :’(((“ posts. Weak.
First, Green will not get much trade value if he is continue to be consistent in inconsistency. He's still a very serviceable sixth man off the bench at worst. If we should extend him at a 20-25 mil per year, it is still better than letting him walk for nothing. Second, we should not use whether we can find the complementary players next to Sengun as a factor to extend or not extend Sengun. If he continue his performance like what he did last year, even we gave him the max his contract would be very tradable. The idea of not extending your own players do not work in 2024 because of the cap space situation. For the past decade, other than the cheating Lakers robbing Davis off Pelicans, every champion needed their homegrown players. It's not a suggestion, but a fact.
Alpe would have been extended if there was no Core 7 but only a Core 3 or 4. Also I already put it out there, the 2025 and 2026 drafts are going to shape the NBA for the next decades......if you believe the reports....you want to have flexibility to trade for one of those guys. If you again believe reports those 2 drafts easily surpass the Cunningham draft class and the Banchero Jabari Chet draft class.
I'm a believer O.P. that both Jalen Green and Sengun get the Maxey extension after free agency. Once Paul George was added Philly could go over the first apron signing their own (players with Bird Rights). Looking at the list of free agency: Trade: Booker Star: Kyrie Irving [ despite his age, I'd take him easily over VanVleet and his contract for about two years ] Jimmy Butler Also-Rans as plan B: Brandon Ingram (UFA) Naz Reid (UFA) Monte Morris (UFA) Aaron Gordon (Player Option) Bobby Portis (UFA) Myles Turner (Player Option) John Collins (Player Option) Alex Caruso (UFA) https://www.spotrac.com/nba/free-agents/_/year/2025/sort/contract_value Morey did that with Maxey and Stone learned from Morey. Sixers are better for it and so will Houston.
Sengun is an easy max extension. Rockets were not expecting TWO max extension for the 2021 class, so I guess they have a nice problem to deal with. It would be a bit weird for one of them if only the other is given the max extension now.
FVV has been a “star”, a champion, and 8 year vet. The young core has played relatively well in several games without Fred last year including competitive games against Boston, Indiana, and NY. Brunson was in his 4th year with a better team that had a core that played together for at least 4 years.
I'm surprised this group are this high on Sengun. To be clear, I think he's good, maybe even All Star This Year but his value as an asset to me is lowered as soon as he's maxed because he's harder to trade at that point with having to find both a good fit and have the right salaries and asset to get back. Which means you Max because you want to build around him, and you might have to because he is that good, but once again because of his limitations, it'd be the same top end as having a Donatas or Julius Randle as a max player from a roster construction stand point.
Randle when healthy is an All Star with 60% TS and a good passer out of the post, around 20, 10, 4. His draw back is his style of play (back to basket, inconsistent range).
Agree on Jalen, if he doesn't improve upon last year, I wouldn't want to go more than 20 M per year for him. It would suck if another team offer a big contract as we'd have to be forced to match but if he's not consistent maybe teams would be scared away. On Alpi, those home grown talent are also top 5 in the league. Alpi has shown me he's a likely All Star, but if tops out at around Donatas or Julius Randle, the fit with the bigger contact makes it harder to trade and get value back. Said in another way, I think Sengun at current contract today or even 25M per can get 4 frp back potentially (similar to Bridges). At 40M what he can get back becomes more limited So I would rather wait a year, see if we think he's a top 5 asset before being forced into a decision.
Sengun you give the max.... Green you wait and see how the season unfolds... you either see enough to give the max - or you trade him.
IMHO they have to preview how they deal with Jabari, Tari and then Amen and Cam. I am guessing with those guys it would not be crystal clear either.
It’s not just 3pt shot. Sengun can’t shoot beyond 15 ft. No longer mid range shooting. This causes the offense to be compressed especially when teams are playing zone against us.Defenses have to come out on Jokic when he’s playing high post. Teams just don’t guard Sengun the same way. They simply sit back and wait for the predictable dribble drive spin.
And they still can’t stop him. We won’t know for a little bit, but all indications are that Alpi will have an improved shot this year and will be more willing to take it. He should be maxed out right away to make him feel a loyalty to the Rockets. He would still be tradeable, although I can’t imagine why they would want to.
