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When You Can't Win on the Issue, Disenfranchise, Lie, and Cheat

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Amiga, Oct 11, 2024.

  1. Amiga

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  2. Buck Turgidson

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    That's a Tool song...

    Cheat steal lie

     
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  3. Amiga

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    Another one from today. Youngkin waited until less than 30 days before the election to do this, breaking federal law.

    Justice Department Sues Virginia for Violating Federal Law’s Prohibition on Systematic Efforts to Remove Voters Within 90 Days of an Election
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/just...g-federal-laws-prohibition-systematic-efforts

    The Justice Department announced today that it has filed a lawsuit against the State of Virginia, Virginia State Board of Elections and Virginia Commissioner of Elections to challenge a systematic state program aimed at removing voters from its election rolls too close to the Nov. 5 general election in violation of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (NVRA).

    Section 8(c)(2) of the NVRA, also known as the Quiet Period Provision, requires states to complete systematic programs aimed at removing the names of ineligible voters from voter registration lists no later than 90 days before federal elections. The Quiet Period Provision applies to certain systematic programs carried out by states that are aimed at striking names from voter registration lists based on a perceived failure to meet initial eligibility requirements — including citizenship — at the time of registration.

    “As the National Voter Registration Act mandates, officials across the country should take heed of the law’s crystal clear and unequivocal restrictions on systematic list maintenance efforts that fall within 90 days of an election,” said Assistant Attorney General Kristen Clarke of the Justice Department’s Civil Rights Division. “By cancelling voter registrations within 90 days of Election Day, Virginia places qualified voters in jeopardy of being removed from the rolls and creates the risk of confusion for the electorate. Congress adopted the National Voter Registration Act’s quiet period restriction to prevent error-prone, eleventh hour efforts that all too often disenfranchise qualified voters. The right to vote is the cornerstone of our democracy and the Justice Department will continue to ensure that the rights of qualified voters are protected.”
     
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  4. AroundTheWorld

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    Okay, if that's what floats your boat as a leftist, do what you must do. Seems like it's your side's playbook.
     
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    Can you point to where Democrats are trying to disenfranchise a large group of voters?
     
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  6. Amiga

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    Some good news: Republicans are attempting to disenfranchise mail-in ballot voters in PA by preventing them from correcting mistakes—something they could do in the past and that remains standard practice in states like GA.

    Republicans lose bid to block Pennsylvania voters from 'curing' mail-in ballots

    (Reuters) -Pennsylvania election officials will be able to notify voters of any mistakes in their mail-in ballots and let them make changes, the state's top court ruled, in a blow to Republicans who sought to block the practice in a state crucial to determining who will be the next U.S. president.
     
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  7. AroundTheWorld

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    Calling people on the other side "deplorables".

    Calling regular conservatives and everyone who is not leftist "far right".

    Calling people who are not fascist "fascists".

    Trying to censor dissenting opinions.

    Forcing DEI down the throat of everyone.

    Cancel culture.

    Men.

    White people.
     
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    Calling regular liberal and anyone not right far left
    Communists
    Snowflake
    Libtards
    Terrorist supporters
    Antisemitic
    Sjw
    Pro hamas
    Forcing anti abortion down folks throat.

    Pot calling kettle black
     
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    You seem to think that speech (opinions) and policies that you don't agree with are disenfranchising voters. Do you know what disenfranchisement means?

    (BTW, Clinton's "basket of deplorable" comment was seen as a boost to turnout for Trump)
     
  11. AroundTheWorld

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    Some of those are true in some cases, but yes - fair enough. I was asked to provide some examples, and I did.
     
  12. FranchiseBlade

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    Whoa! Take it easy, Captain Snowflake.
    Democrats including Hillary Clinton didn't refer to everyone on the other side as deplorables.

    Reoublicans who are far right have still chosen to support Kamala because she can work with people from varying political viewpoints. She is actually making an effort to do so.

    Censoring differing political opinions? You mean like trying to punish channels that show an ad voicing a negative towards the state's abortion policy?

    Also which of the things you mentioned make it more difficult for MAGA voters to actually vote?
     
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    How is that actually disenfranchising voters? Does that actually take away their right or ability to vote?
     
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    If harsh rhetoric was actually disenfranchising voters then calling Democrats "terrorist loving authoritarians"
    Would be disenfranchisement also.
     
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    Donald Trump referred to American citizens who are his political enemies as being vermin.
     
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    I don’t waste my time with the chump. You go ahead, judo.
     
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  17. AroundTheWorld

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    I don't know, you would have to ask those people - I know it is hard to believe for you leftists, but a lot of them will not vote for Kamallah because they are turned off by all of that.
     
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    @Deckard is one of these leftist extremists who would cheer with these people. He hates Netanyahu and Israelis.
     
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    Those people were never going to vote for her anyway.
     
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