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Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by ItsMyFault, Nov 9, 2016.

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    Kam’Allah’s Ka’trina

     
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    they had a clear landing site.
     
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    a bad sign of what?
     
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    And were you there at the site? Do you know the exact conditions of the site?
     
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    Thread title.
     
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    Again a lot of defense of Musk with little knowledge of how disaster recovery works. Even in place like Houston which is flat access both by the ground and air was limited. Even without a disaster air access is limited and private planes, helicopters and drones can’t just fly and land anywhere.

    if people remember immediately after Harvey people bringing aid couldn’t just go anywhere. It had to do with both safety of even helpers who in a disaster sometimes get them selves in danger. It also has to do with cooridinating and targeting aid so it gets it where it needs to, and unfortunately it also has to do with they looters have disguised themselves as people trying to help.
     
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    the pilot did.
     
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    That’s Elon Musk’s word of a someone he employs.

    But you’re making my point that you’re more interested in defending Musk and political finger pointing than actually helping people affected by this.
     
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    why do you think you know better?
     
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    Given Musk’s history of misrepresentation and political bias not I don’t trust Musk. Don’t have evidence besides from Musks or political biased sources in the situation?
     
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    This bears more repeating the political debate aside the needs are great and the recovery is going to take along time. As someone who’s worked in disaster response and recovery even in the best situations recovery is always difficult .

    Frustration and anger from those affected is completely understandable. It’s also still going to be a lot road.

    no matter what side of the political divide we are in we should do what we can to help.
     
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    FACT: Musk has personally spread lies, disinformation, and misinformation. He has retweeted Tenet Media (Russian government propaganda) at least 60 times.

    FACT: Local Republicans have praised the Biden administration for its excellent work.

    MAGA: They ignore local Republicans who are focused on recovery and praising the Biden administration while choosing to trust Musk, who knows next to nothing about disaster recovery and has a record of lies and disinformation.
     
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    Far above their concern for residents, is their concern in trying to score political points. It also allows them to feel like they are doing something good since they give lip service to caring about the welfare of the citizens.
     
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    And she confirmed everything g I’ve been saying. About how widespread the damage is how difficult it is to get aid in. She also even pointed out that sending private helicopters makes it more difficult to rescuers.

    Her statements show exactly why even well
    Meaning private individuals are being delayed and hampered from access. A disaster recovery is a major operation that
    Requires a lot of coordination and training. Just letting even people with the best intentions but unprepared in to help puts them at risk becomes highly inefficient as aid might not be targeted to where it needs to or the type of aid.
     
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    And many local officials confirm that the are getting aid and that misinformation is making things more difficult. In on my phone so difficult to post whole article:
    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/06/us/hurricane-helene-north-carolina-misinformation.html

    Another Hurdle in Recovery From Helene: Misinformation Is Getting in the Way
    In North Carolina and other states, a barrage of conspiracy theories and false claims over efforts to bring relief after Hurricane Helene is alarming and disheartening officials and workers.

    But within hours, a conspiracy theory took hold. The meeting, social media posts claimed, was a secret discussion about bulldozing, confiscating or even selling land for profit or to mine lithium.

    “The only lithium for sale in Rutherford County is at the local Lowes stores in a 9-volt battery,” said Bryan King, the chairman of the county commission, who was at the meeting. The power of the conspiracy theory, he added, “is just disheartening.”

    As thousands across the Southeast grieve the deaths and damage left by the Category 4 hurricane that made landfall on Sept. 26, a torrent of conspiracy theories, rumors and lies threatens to undermine efforts to provide accurate information and crucial resources. Disinformation has been particularly rampant in Georgia and North Carolina, and the sheer number of falsehoods has alarmed officials and experts.

    Aaron Ellenburg, Rutherford County’s sheriff, has spent days refuting baseless claims about lithium sales or communities being bulldozed to cover up bodies left behind by the storm. “I’ve never seen anything like it,” he said. “I’m sick and tired of this crap.”

    The conspiracy theories and rumors on X after Helene tore through the Southeast have also been circulated and elevated by high-profile figures, including Elon Musk, who has pulled back on content moderation and repeatedly amplified disinformation to his millions of followers since he bought the social media platform. Representatives for X were not immediately available to comment.

    Former President Donald J. Trump has also falsely claimed that disaster-relief funds were being diverted to house undocumented migrants and suggested without evidence that Democrats were not eager to help conservative residents. (Some Republican governors have actually praised the Biden administration for its response.)

    The falsehoods have prompted pushback from lawmakers and officials from across the country. Mayor Glenn Jacobs of Knox County, Tenn., said to his followers, “if everyone could maybe please put aside the hate for a bit and pitch in to help, that would be great.” And Kevin Corbin, a Republican state representative in North Carolina, pleaded on Facebook, “PLEASE help stop this junk.”
     
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    yeah, but no.
     
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