AKA they have lighter skin tone and act like "Us" Won their own country?????? hhhhmmmmmm . . . I seem to remember it being given to them by the group that allowed them to almost be exterminated in Germany but that group didn't want them anywhere around them so they put them in the middle of another group they didn't want anywhere around them. Rocket River
Part of what you're saying is true - it's probably unrealistic to expect the complete destruction of groups like Hamas, Hezbollah, the Houthis, Islamic Jihad, ISIS, Al Qaeda... But what can be done is disempower them as much as possible and reduce them to a small faction. This is achievable and is the goal of Israel at this point (and, really, should be the goal of all peace-loving nations). and it's ridiculous to say that Netanyahu's actions are just to stay in power. Utter nonsense.
Exactly. It's the hard and long answer but to put it simply the only thing you can do is setup a region where it is economically, and politically stupid to attack a neighboring nation. There has to be rules, and repercussions in doing military actions that put people's lives at risk. The thing here that is fascinating, and dangerous is that Netanyahu has continued to do things that are politically, and economically bad for his country... but because of the West's current flirtation with Autocracy, corrupt strongmen, and nationalism it has given him the window he needs to say screw the politics, and economy of my country... I only need to worry about the right wing in the US, and Europe because if I am popular THERE, I don't need to be popular HERE. Screw my own people... I just need the right wing IN THE WEST. I would say that the infrastructure is there for peace across the region, but I can point right directly at the instability of OUR POLITICAL system as a direct culprit here to how ideally things would be operating. Not perfect, but the international infrastructure is there to economically entangle alot of these countries in the long run to where there is nothing good that can happen by attacking your neighboring countries over stupid religious history.
That's your opinion on Netanyahu. The facts however tell a different story. The war is what keeps this case from going to trial, and directly what keeps him in office. https://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-...-run-in-next-election-bennett-favored-for-pm/ And nearly 70% of Israeli's want this guy out of office. Hence he has all the reason in the world to continue to ratchet up this war for his own political power, and to keep himself out of prison. ......... As for dismembering Hamas or ideologies that come from it.... That policing of extremist groups can only come from within. Iran needs to be economically, and politically stable enough to police their own extremist groups. It is not Mexico's responsibility to prosecute January 6th rioters here in the US. It would be a sign of instability and weakness if the US couldn't deal with extremist factions on their own. Iran needs to be stable enough to control their own extremist groups. The fact is they will never be stable unless they are economically, and politically intertwined with the global and regional world. No Iran should not be rewarded for their actions, but we also cannot be blind to what the solution in reality really is... because it isn't just more war from outsiders trying to correct the problem from outside with bombs, and religious division. The only way Iran stabilizes is if long term there is a path towards being more globally intertwined economically.
No one is ever trying to kill peace loving nations. Bhutan is a peace loving nation. There are not many of them. Most of us are just nations. They achieve this by not going to other people's resources and calling it their national interests then acting surprised when things pop off. They achieved it with diplomacy. Bhutan doesn't need America to protect it. No one needs America to protect it. Everywhere America went to protect, war continued or followed. America has never made any nation peaceful except by invading their sovereignty. There's a word for that: it's a ****ing scam. It's the cheesy deal with the devil they always tell us about. Freedom for safety. Like the Patriot Act. Israel being the child of America does the same. The terrorist European atheist Zionists ruling it have never liked anyone they lived with unless they were given the keys to the country. America, Germany, Palestine, Lebanon, you name it. They don't want to live with anyone but Jews and their workers. They want a religious non-secular state that you have been telling the middle east for years is toxic. They don't want to live near anyone if they're not corrupting their king or their Congress. Those people have done nothing on this planet but act like victims while bringing about war. Netenyahu is not doing this to stay in power? Dude open your eyes this guy has been in charge for two decades and you still think it's a democracy. He's been the leader longer than my country's King. How do Americans get more brainwashed then Israelis themselves? Most Israelis believe he's doing this to stay in power. He was going to jail before this happened. All of these are coincidences to you? It just so happens they have to kill tens of thousands of people to achieve their goal? Just so happens they can't avoid these casualties? JUST SO HAPPENS THEY HAVE MORE LAND AFTER SELF-DEFENSE? Wake up dude. War begets war because innocent people get physically or mentally damaged from it for a lifetime. They're lying to you. I'm watching it live. 99% of the citizens of my country are pro-Palestine. I'm watching your news channels and algorithms promoting paid influencers in my country as though they represent the public - just because they support Israel. Then I log on here and these monkeys believe we're thankful to Israel for bombing Lebanon - because of those videos. It's absurd. How can such a cheap surface lie even work on you guys? This region is 99% pro-palestine. The world is more than 90% pro-palestine now. The headlines and governments are not, so guess how that happens. Wake up dude. You're going to have the same terror groups, tens of thousands dead, tens of billions of dollars wasted while 70% of your country can't afford a $3000 emergency. Wake up.
It's true that America has a history of having wars attached to where it has been, but there is some important context leading up to most of those interventions. There are also nations that we've never militarily been intervening in that do openly say they rely on us, and are peaceful nations. Costa Rica being the one that I would point at as an example of a country that does rely on the US to come aid if for some reason I dunno... Venezuela or Columbia invaded it. I do NOT believe the US should be Team America World Police, but it is a reality that do have alot of responsibility earned or not. Where the shift needs to be is in an alliance decisions... NOT THE US ALONE. Ukraine is a good example of the US acting in partnership with our allies to support them instead of going all George H. Bush which leads to George W Bush being an idiot & war criminal, and soiling the US name for the history books. But yes the US has the influential power. Not because of our military, but more because of our economy which has the ability to make countries allies or threats to peace if we are divided on our relationship with those countries like we are with Russia, and Iran.... and now looking more and more like Israel is about to be right there with Russia, and Iran since Netanyahu and the MAGA right want to divide Americans on our relationship with Israel, and how we deal with them. The economy is also what pays for the military power. That doesn't happen in a vacuum. Israel shouldn't be as divisive as it is. If we weren't divided on Israel, and treated the relationship normally, Netanyahu wouldn't be able to do what he's been doing. As you mentioned it's crazy that almost half of the US is so brainwashed on Israel, but not surprising for me because I grew up in an Evangelical Christian house, but that's a whole other diatribe I could get into. Point is yes the US has a role to play, no it shouldn't be doing it alone though, and yes war & instability follow when we screw it up because of our divided & corrupt political nonsense which drives that division. Even the F-up that the US had in Vietnam with LBJ can be attributed to the nonsense US political division. Only then it was Commie vs ant-Commie propaganda that drove a wedge in US politics and LBJ made a stupid decision early on that was political when ultimately killed his presidency. Now our Iran is the enemy and Iran = terrorism propaganda is really going to get the world Fcked again.
With all due respect I don't believe any of this about "sometimes America means well" thing. Speaking specifically about the government, not the people. North Korea does charity sometimes too. BP oil invests in sustainability. The British claim to have helped civilize Indians. Christopher Columbus taught the natives some astrology. None of these things define the actor. What defines the actor is the majority of things they do. The feedback from the people they do it to defines them. You can't be helping people when most of them are saying you're hurting them. That's not help. We don't want help anyway. We just want everyone to go back to their lovey homes. It's openly said by your government that these things are about American interests. Maybe it's not that for you, but that's what it is for them. Those "American" interests are other people's property and rights. That's an act of war plain and simple from the get-go. I don't care if the puppet they installed likes them being here, it will be unstable for as long as the people don't want it. You have to apply force and money to gag and neuter the population. Humans tend to eventually react in an equal and opposite direction under those circumstances. You're the richest country in the history of the world and have become adjusted to living like a current below average economy. You guys need to get unadjusted to that to begin understanding how much money is being siphoned off for ****ing with other countries and enriching friends of the decision makers. I don't even know where to begin a conversation about Israel. After massacring 50,000 humans in a cage with an unachievable goal of ending a resistance mindset, you say they shouldn't be "so divisive"? That's what it is? Divisive? Dude wake up imagine 50,000 Americans were killed. That's 9/11 times 15. Then imagine I come and say "that attacker shouldn't have been so divisive". Dude. We're humans just like you. We have the same standards of life and dignity as you. Our children are as cute as yours. Our grandparents are as stationary and fragile as yours. Our youth have dreams like yours. We're not used to getting killed. You can't become well adjusted to this otherwise it will never stop. This is madness what's going on. It's spiraled way out of control. Things are dark. Things are darker here than they've ever been.
****ing hypocrites the right are. They criticize the Biden administration about diplomacy and appeasement with Iran. Then when it comes to war in Ukraine it is the opposite. Trump wants to appease Putin and Russia.
I was talking about how Netanyahu is keenly aware and exploits our American political media in order to divide Americans views on Israel for his gain. He propagates ideologue fundamentalist evangelical Christians who drive much of the Republican Party policies and the narratives on Fox News etc. Netanyahu’s destruction of Gaza is not politically divisive. It’s murder and should be a wake up call for all of those here in the West who think voting for a strongman autocrat would be edgy or interesting to see as a person not afraid to “shake things up.” Even within the framework of Democracies brutal autocrats can still inflict horror on the world. We’ll forever have the stain of George W on our country for what he did in leveling Iraq and the thousands of civilians who died from his war that was all about his political gain and oil leases for his rich donors. So I think you misunderstood me but yes I am also a proud American and I do believe we do good things as well and we do have a role to play moving forward whether we have a perfect track record or not. As I said I lived in Costa Rica for months. There are other countries around the world who do actually rely on us and their reliance on us has yet to end up on their country turning into Mordor. I’m sorry about the situation over there and the pain it has caused you and those around you if that’s the case. I can’t tell you America won’t fck the world up more in the future but I also won’t give in in a little bit of hope that we are still the best chance at making good things happen if we have better leadership in the future and we can finally fix our broken corrupt system of money in our politics which is where the mess usually starts here and leads to messed up decisions. See George W/Cheney focusing on getting their buddies at Halliburton rich by invading Iraq instead of worrying about the best way to actually deal with terrorism prevention. Again I empathize but I do not believe the right move is for the US to just let Iran level Israel. We cannot undone what was done in 1948 but we can put an end to Netanyahu soiling our name by doing what he does without the US acting as though they have no ability to deter him. The US needs to expose him and openly tell the world he’s working against the interest of Israel’s safety simply to save himself.
When Arab terrorists attacked the United States and killed 5,000 people, the United States said we would not stand for that and hit back, hard. Something on the order of a million direct deaths were the result. You missed the lesson of it. Attacking the militarily superior enemy that will annihilate you is not a good idea. It was dumb when al Qaida did it. It was dumb when Hamas did it. It was dumb when Hezballah did it. All of them are reaping what they have sewn. Was it worth what has happened in Gaza to kill a thousand Israelis? Was it worth what is happening in Lebanon to fire thousands of rockets at Israel? What benefit was gained. You seem to think the Israeli attacks occurred out of the blue. They are a very clear response to the October 7 attack and the subsequent rocket attacks from Gaza and Lebanon. There are many sayings about doing what the Arab terrorists have done over and over again without learning their lesson. Don't poke the bear. Don't wake a sleeping giant. Don't tug on Superman's cape. F around and find out. Maybe one day the lesson will sink in. Until it does, I hope Israel never stops until there is not a single member of Hamas, Hezballah, PIJ, etc. under arms in the Middle East.
