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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Salvy

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    Personally, I think its pretty bad ass entire stadiums can unite in a single moment and show their pride for this country. Every race, man or women and nationality coming together and cheering for a greater country. At the end of the day what's best for this country is what should matter and not a political party or ideology. Trump disrupted the two party system and although he represents the republican party many will tell you he is far from it and the system. Somehow thou he has brought back patriotism, he isn't the best spoken or the nicest... He isn't ethical or charismatic nor is he a cunning politician. But I do believe Trump loves this country and will always put this country first. He is still fighting for America and seeing so many people come together for that fight is badass.
     
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    UNRWA = Hamas
     
  3. No Worries

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    FIFY.
     
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    you didn't need to fix anything so you left it the same
    now you'll go fix
     
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    UN lies
    UNRWA lies
    Sweet Lou lies

    Hamas doesn't bother to lie about it.

     
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  9. FranchiseBlade

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    Thanks for the response.

    Kamala, who also fills entire stadiums with a more diverse crowd must be a bigger badass?

    Also as far as Trump loving the country, I'll just point out that he defrauded his way out of serving in the armed forces. He never worked to serve the nation in any job until he ran for President. He didn't run for President until he was mocked at a correspondence dinner.

    Harris made her career serving people as a prosecutor and eventually a Senator.

    Also she never tried to overthrow an election to hold on to power.
     
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    I think the fact that you trust Hamas over the UN says everything.

    Lets not forget how Israel directly helped support and create Hamas. So there's that.
     
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    You are confusing country with cult of personality
     
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  13. Salvy

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    This isn't about rallies and organized events specifically for that candidate, which by the way from Kamala's side are a bit sketchy.... This is about people who are there for a football game, or a UFC fight or Nascar who see Trump and start chanting U.S.A....

    Look, in good faith in regards to Kamala. Assuming she isn't running on personal gain or merit to be the first women president but she actually genuinely cares and thinks she can make this country better. She is going about it the wrong way, she is running her campaign on individual rights that could be great for certain individuals of course but does nothing for the majority and the rest of the country. Abortion for example, she wants my vote to do what? Enable mass abortions nationwide, how does this impact our border or our economy? Abortion is now handled by the states and any abortion had that isn't under a medical/rape/ incest exemption is essentially a women avoiding responsibility both at conception and at pregnancy. I do think abortion has its place and should always exist in this country but to wield abortion like a magic wand that promises women freedom of their bodies is extremely unethical and misleading. Abortion does exist and if people want it in their states they can vote for it, if the majority do not want it they can also vote for that.....

    So what exactly is Kamala fighting for? nothing... She is using worn out topics civil/social issues that no longer exist and brining them back to life to create some sort of movement that empowers black people and gay people and trans people and Latinos. Except that systemic racism no longer exists, being gay or lgbt is widely accepted more and more every day and Latinos are more so affected by the economy that these civil rights issues do not move the country forward in any way because the country already did move forward and out of it.

    Trump does not run on individual anything, he runs on policies that help every single person in this country all together whether you love it or hate it. He is right about the border and he is right about foreign policy. Strong borders and no wars is a million times better than where we are today for everyone. This is why Trump is associated with patriotism and not civil activism. Voting for Kamala does possibly in a small way help certain individuals a little bit at the cost of a struggling country but voting Trump blankets the entire country with benefits at the cost of dislikes of a few.
     
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    She's actually fighting for getting things accomplished and that includes protecting the women's healthcare. States enacted civil war-era abortion policies without allowing the voters of the state to have a say. Women have died because of state's abortion laws.
     
  15. DaDakota

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    Nor has she ever threatened to FLEE her beloved country if she loses the election.

    DD
     
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    So she is fighting for more killed babies.

    OK.

    (I am for the Roe vs. Wade exceptions, but to glorify more baby killings as "women's healthcare" is about as typical for leftist framing as calling genital mutilation and chemical castration "gender-affirming care" (when it is actually the opposite).)

    That claim is disputed.
     
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    Just because these are things that YOU don't care about does not mean that alot or most people don't care about it.

    And no Trump is not associated with Patriotism. Quite the opposite. He literally tried to overturn Democracy, and has openly said he would suspend the Constitution. He bows to Putin routinely. etc. etc. I shouldn't even have to make that point.

    So no I know that YOU think that what Trump does is Patriotic, but that doesn't mean that you personally are a representative of EVERYONE. It's pretty narcissistic for you to talk as if you do. Like it's fine if you want to have twisted logic on some of these issues to justify the way you vote, but I do take issue with you acting as though your views and logic are like the Ten Commandments written by God on tablets for mankind to follow.
     
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    Nobody is fighting for killed babies and you know that.
     
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    When discussing abortion, outside of life threatening causes/rape, it's important to use the term "early human life" because that's exactly what it is (and fetus of course means "human offspring"). But lately you hear folks trying to say "oh it's just a clump of cells, not a real human yet" which is 100% false. They're doing this as a defense mechanism.
     
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    He was there to watch a football game. People were not there for him.
     

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