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I absolutely HATE sports betting it is a plague and should be banned

Discussion in 'NBA Dish' started by SamFisher, Apr 11, 2024.

  1. Hank McDowell

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    Not really. A little poker, some blackjack, but that's about it. I'd rather lose my money in the book!
     
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  2. SamFisher

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    Now that we've legalized sports betting the results are in - and yep, it's a goddam plague in terms of measurable social impacts as well:

    Alarming patterns have started to emerge. Two recent working papers look at the economic impacts of legalization. One, by Northwestern University’s Scott Baker and colleagues, finds that legal sports gambling depletes households’ savings. Specifically, for every $1 spent on betting, households put $2 less into investment accounts. States see big increases in the risk of overdrafting a bank account or maxing out a credit card. These effects are strongest among already precarious households.

    A second paper, from the economists Brett Hollenbeck of UCLA and Poet Larsen and Davide Proserpio of the University of Southern California, tells a similar story. Looking specifically at online sports gambling, they find that legalization increases the risk that a household goes bankrupt by 25 to 30 percent, and increases debt delinquency. These problems seem to concentrate among young men living in low-income counties—further evidence that those most hurt by sports gambling are the least well-off.

    A third recent paper, from the University of Oregon economists Kyutaro Matsuzawa and Emily Arnesen, shows another, perhaps more surprising—and certainly more harrowing—harm of gambling legalization: domestic violence. Earlier research found that an NFL home team’s upset loss causes a 10 percent increase in reported incidents of men being violent toward their partner. Matsuzawa and Arnesen extend this, finding that in states where sports betting is legal, the effect is even bigger. They estimate that legal sports betting leads to a roughly 9 percent increase in intimate-partner violence.
    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2024/09/legal-sports-gambling-was-mistake/679925/


    The second one actually is the one that I think is most linkable to online sports gambling and why athletes are getting swept up

    We have a multi billion dollar industry that is psychographically targeted at children and young men to get them addicted to gambling on sports ... And the leagues are actively encouraging it.


    This!

    Is!

    BAD!
     
  3. MadMax

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    "Who could have seen this coming?" I asked, sarcastically.
     
  4. DaDakota

    DaDakota Balance wins
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    I got Alabama to win at home vs George at +115


    DD
     
  5. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    Basically the new cigarette industry, where (hopefully, if we get past it) people will look back and think, "damn. they knew this was horrible for people."
     
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  6. Easy

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    Well, people who are addicted to drugs and cigarette squander their money and their health. People who are addicted to gambling only squander their money. I'm not sure if the Surgeon General will interfere with the gambling thing.
     
  7. B-Bob

    B-Bob "94-year-old self-described dreamer"
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    I dunno - you should read some of the Sam-provided links. Mental health directly impacts physical health, bigly.
    But yeah, I'm stretching for the analogy.

    I just want an excuse to rewatch Ross McElwee's documentary "Bright Leaves."
     
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  8. Buck Turgidson

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    HHS, NIH, etc have weighed in on internet p*rn addiction, so I'm not sure why gambling would be any different.
     
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  9. geeimsobored

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    Kids and families are collateral damage when it comes to gambling addiction. Bankruptcy rates have increased by 30% in states that legalized online gambling and average credit scores have fallen in those states. Gambling addiction is literal financial ruin for some families given how powerful it is and how easy and frictionless it is to gamble now. And by putting it in front of you on a phone with constant notifications and reminders during sports games, we've supercharged the addictive properties of gambling.
     
  10. daywalker02

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    From your mouth, it sounded like North America has a big problem.

     
  11. daywalker02

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    Do tell.

     
  12. basso

    basso Member
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    napalm06 Huge Flopping Fan

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    Like all things American, what's important is that it's printing money for venture capital.

    Is that not the true dream in which we all share?
     
  14. basso

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    disney is not venture capital.
     
  15. Tuckmose

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    A reminder that hardcore p*rnography was illegal in the US until the late 50s, not by a change in law, but a SC decision.

    Mass drug use, free p*rnography, and now widespread gambling. There's a reason these were outright banned or heavily restricted for decades.
     
  16. basso

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    why are we *- ing vowels in "p*rnography"?

    did we forget how to spell?
     
  17. Easy

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    I think this bbs censors the word.
     
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  18. Tuckmose

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    Autocensor, must be a script the fourm is running.
     
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  19. Buck Turgidson

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    Basso Simpson:

     
  20. daywalker02

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    p*rn p*rn p*rn

    Test test test.

     
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