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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I get that Harris does well with other demographics, although worse than Biden with Asians, Blacks, Hispanics, and young men, but you're missing how crucial the blue-collar, working-class vote is in swing states like PA, WI, MI, and OH. These voters helped Biden flip those states in 2020, and Harris needs them just as much. Ignoring them because you don’t think union endorsements matter doesn’t change the fact that they often decide elections.
     
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    The numbers are the numbers and the polling in swing states show she overall doing as well or better than Biden was.

    Every demographic matters - but I never expected a black woman to do well with white blue collar men.

    This is very much a gender divided election.
     
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    It seems like you are trying to convince yourself and hope others will buy into the reasoning to help fortify your wishes.
     
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    Why are you guys so scared of Oprah?
     
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    Harris does well with confident successful males, not with insecure ones.

    DD
     
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    So she doesn't do well with you?
     
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    Which polls would that be? Here's a recent one from NYT

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    Then you have things like this playing out in swing states, including PA where there's been a large increase in voter registration in demographics Trump does well with:

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    I will say where I am in NY, they are no joke about anything from child support to who the primary parent is.

    In my case my first wife and I had a child and divorced 13 years later. New York does payroll deductions, no if's ands. or buts.
    If for any reason you do not make payments, your driver's license gets suspended.
    Also, child support runs until 21, and 24 if child is in college.
    My son lived with me 75% of the time in high school because his mother moved to a new school district. I wanted to petition for a reduction in support because of this, and my lawyer said in no way would I win unless she voluntarily decided to restructure the support agreement.
    My ex was kind enough to stop support when he turned 18. He was living with me at the time, but getting my company to stop the payroll deduction took an act of God.

    My current wife and I are about to do a major kitchen remodel and are taking a home equity loan to cover it. I actually had to supply the notarized termination of support letter before the underwriter of the loan would move forward.
    I stopped paying support 8 years ago.

    I'm not in any way bitter about the support, it's my son. But 1,500.00 a month sets you back a bit. Especially when the child lives with you and is eating ALL of the groceries.

    Just a glimpse of things on how it works here in NY.
     
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    More than 700 former military and national security officials endorse Harris, say Trump is ‘impulsive and ill-informed’

    The letter criticized the former president’s foreign affairs track record and alleged involvement in the Jan. 6th Capitol riot.

    The signatories include 15 retired four-star generals, 12 former Cabinet-level officials, eight service secretaries, more than 120 ambassadors and three Trump-era officials: Retired U.S. Army Gen. Peter Chiarelli, former Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff retired four-star Gen. Paul Selva and retired Major Gen. Eric Thorne Olson.

    Sunday’s endorsement comes after 111 Republican former national security and foreign policy officials endorsed Harris in a letter Wednesday, saying that Trump is “unfit to serve again.”

    https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/22/bipartisan-national-security-group-endorses-harris-over-trump.html


    We've never seen these type warnings before from so many high ranking officials about any Presidential candidate being so unfit to serve, and such a risk to our Democracy and National Security.

    Meanwhile, a bunch of red hatters ignore the experts, and continue to believe and share the tweets from keyboard warriors in red hats, too lazy to fact check the lies, and that pathological lying idiot onstage selling them Trump trinkets with a bottle of snake oil, and a double douse of stupidity.
     
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    For some
    Reason NYT has been underpolling Democrats the last few elections. Several other polls put Harris tied or ahead in swing states.
     
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    These "pictures" are truly convincing. Thank you.
     
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    And those polls you mention have been oversampling democrats way more than in 2020

    No problem. Glad you're able to see the source right there in the picture you can easily look up to verify
     
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    Except that polling that showed Democrats during better going into the last week in 2022 were right even as polls like NYT were still saying there would be a Red Wave.

    polls obviously have margins of errors but if you look at actual elections Democrats have been doing better than most polling would indicate in both the 2022 midterms and in many special elections.
     
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