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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. AroundTheWorld

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    I mostly agree.

    But that makes it even more important to secure borders and have realistic immigration policies that are actually backed by the majority of the population (and not just sneakily executed against the will of the population by some politicians/NGOs for ideological reasons) - once people are in, for various reasons it becomes logistically impossible and/or inhumane to get them out.
     
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  2. No Worries

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    IMHO

    10% - chances of a Kamala landslide (350+ EC votes)
    1% - chances of a Trump landslide

    Thus, I have Kamala 10x more likely than trump to win by a landslide ... but ... not the likely outcome.

    The reasons that there might be a Kamala landslide:
    • Dobbs. Voters no longer can think that the Rs will never get this political football into the end zone.
    • Post Dobbs, the Rs have voted to not protect contraception and IVF.
    • The 2022 elections failed to be The Red Wave, like all predicted.
    • When abortion has been put onto the statewide ballot, deep red states vote blue. 2024 states to watch: Arizona, Colorado, Florida, Maryland, Missouri, Montana, Nevada and South Dakota
    • There are now appears to be R women who will privately vote D. The R women appear to be pro-life for themselves, but pro-choice for others.
    • 20-40 year old women do not want to die in a hospital parking lot
    • NC has a historically bad R governor candidate
    • Arizona has a historically bad R senate candidate
    • Voters are beginning to remember why they fired Trump in 2020.
     
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  3. B-Bob

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    I just don't know. No matter how anyone feels about Trump, has any politician ever done more with less?
    Take a shady real estate program, featuring multiple bankruptcies, and a reality TV career, with no political offices, ever... and become POTUS, just based on an ability to connect with people, bully people, and create simple marketing slogans. That's just amazing.

    He is a marketing genius. Terrible, terrible human being, in terms of basic morality, but a narrow type of genius in understanding how other people tick and how to manipulate them.
     
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  4. No Worries

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    Agree.

    Trump entire first (and hopefully only) term as POTUS was a never ending PR campaign. Trump thought things like "I can sell my base that nuking a hurricane is a great idea" so let's give that a swing.
     
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    It just seems a certain segment of society in America wants to be grifted. Whether it’s Joel Olsteen or another preacher like that. Infowars snake oil etc.

    Trump tapped into that hard. He got to run against a putrid propped up candidate Hillary Clinton and boom 9 years later. It does seem like when he talking now he doesn’t have the energy to make it sound like he means. Like an old tired robot up there.
     
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    Someday someone will have to explain to me how people can be so gullible, I know we have all developed selective memory, and we have short intention spans but DAM, this dude is the epidemy of a snake oil salesman.

    It will eventually come out that he thinks his base is nothing more than a meal ticket and a get out of jail free card and they will move on to the next one..........I am sure there is another Jerry Fallwell or Oral Roberts out there just waiting for his shot at their pocketbooks
     
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    Does that say more about his genius or the conditioning of a certain segment of the American population who are prone to things like prosperity Gospel and mlm scams?

    I think the magic with Trump is the lack of shame combined with ambition combined with being born into a family worth 413 million dollars.

    The ideas Trump has are very pedestrian but they have one thing in common, most humans would have too much shame and lack the ambition married with the lack of shame to execute. For example, Trump University and Trump steaks. Nothing ingenious about these endeavors. What makes hem unique is the lack of shame and ambition to be perceived as a business guru.

    I don't think here is a single aspect of Trump's marketing that is genius. I think Trump stumbling into her presidency is an indictment of America's lack of basic intellectual curiosity and a hollowed out education system.
     
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    latest update on the idiots

    The “Uncommitted” movement, which sprung up during the Democratic primaries in opposition to the Biden administration’s policy on the war in Gaza, said Thursday it would not endorse Vice President Kamala Harris after her campaign again spurned activists pushing for a halt to US military aid to Israel and an immediate ceasefire.

    “Uncommitted” leaders, however, warned against a vote for former President Donald Trump, whose agenda, they said in a statement, “includes plans to accelerate the killing in Gaza while intensifying the suppression of anti-war organizing.” The group also said it was “not recommending a third-party vote” because of the potential for “inadvertently” helping Trump in key swing states.

    “Vice President Harris’s unwillingness to shift on unconditional weapons policy or to even make a clear campaign statement in support of upholding existing U.S. and international human rights law has made it impossible for us to endorse her,” the group said, while also criticizing her campaign for “courting Dick Cheney,” the Republican former vice presidentand Iraq War architect, “while sidelining disillusioned anti-war voices.” Cheney and his daughter Liz Cheney, a former congresswoman and fierce Trump critic, endorsed Harris for president earlier this month.

    Thursday’s announcement comes ahead of a Harris campaign event with Oprah Winfrey in the Detroit suburbs later in the evening. Michigan is home to one of the country’s largest Arab American populations, which helped fuel the more than 100,000 “uncommitted” ballots cast in – as a message to Biden – in the state’s February Democratic primary.

    “Uncommitted” movement leaders, including Abbas Alawieh – a former Hill staffer for Michigan Rep. Rashida Tlaib, a Palestinian American, and Missouri Rep. Cori Bush – and Tlaib’s sister, Layla Elabed, pushed for a Palestinian American speaking slot at August’s Democratic National Convention in Chicago but were turned down by party leaders.

    They held a sit-in outside the United Center to protest the decision, eventually shifting their demand to a visit from Harris to bereaved Palestinian American families in Michigan. “Uncommitted” leaders said the campaign failed “to address the request.”
     
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    sad.


     
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    ungrateful union members turning their back on the hand that feeds them. fk them.

     
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    Trump's Anti-Worker Record



    • Trump has encouraged freeloaders, made it more difficult to enforce collective bargaining agreements, silenced workers and restricted the freedom to join unions:
    • Trump has restricted overtime pay, opposed wage increases, and gutted health and safety protections:
    • Trump has helped insurers reduce coverage and made it easier for pharmaceutical companies to inflate drug prices:
    • Trump has encouraged outsourcing and offshoring:
    • Trump failed to prepare the nation for the COVID-19 pandemic, opposes hazard pay for essential workers, and has given employers a free pass to lower safety standards:
     
  13. Mr.Scarface

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    Made-up numbers.
     
  14. JHarden713

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    Y'all are fixing to find out
     
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  15. Salvy

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    Just like Kamala's poll numbers...
     
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  16. Salvy

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    Ooof, 450K votes won't be going to Kamala in one sudden drop at 12 am while there is a plumbing issue....

     
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  17. Mr.Scarface

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    So when Kamala gets more than the 81 million votes Biden got, I guess that will be FAKE NEWS?
     
  18. Salvy

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    Lol, Biden actually got votes to be the nominee thou....
     
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    She just talks n says nothing. Uttering doesn't make you smart Kamala
     
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