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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

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  1. deb4rockets

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    Bogus hit-and-run story about Vice President Kamala Harris created by Russian troll farm, Microsoft says

    A false claim that Vice President Kamala Harris was involved in a June 2011 hit-and-run incident that left a 13-year-old girl paralyzed was created by a Russian troll farm, according to a report released Tuesday by Microsoft.

    The report by Microsoft's Threat Analysis Center said the fabricated story was created by a Kremlin-aligned group, dubbed Storm-1516, one of several Russian disinformation networks that Microsoft says is targeting the Harris-Walz campaign in the lead-up to November's presidential election.


    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bogus-...ralyzed-teen-russia-disinformation-microsoft/
     
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    The National Treasury Employees Union endorses Harris for president

    The National Treasury Employees Union endorsed Kamala Harris for president Wednesday.

    “When it comes to treating federal employees with respect, valuing their service and investing in their work, Kamala Harris is the clear choice,” said National President Doreen Greenwald. “She shares our values and our commitment to making sure that the federal government works for all Americans. She has been a strong advocate for the issues that matter most to federal employees: fair pay, paid family leave, adequate agency funding and staffing, and robust collective bargaining rights.”

    Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump has vowed to fire tens of thousands of federal workers if elected. In 2020, Trump issued an executive order called “Schedule F” that would have stripped them of job protections.


    https://apnews.com/article/trump-harris-vance-walz-election-b8014f05f1a8364ebf45b1b8c835a672
     
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  3. No Worries

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    I would not bet the farm on this but ...

    Data scientist who correctly predicted 2020 election now betting on 'landslide' Harris win

    Data scientist Thomas Miller of Northwestern University correctly predicted the 2020 Electoral College map, with the exception of Georgia. He also accurately forecasted Georgia's two Democratic U.S. senators, Jon Ossoff and Raphael Warnock, defeating then-incumbents Kelly Loeffler and David Perdue.

    Now, he's anticipating that Vice President Kamala Harris will not only defeat former President Donald Trump in November, but will do so by a significant margin. Fortune reported that Miller is predicting that Harris' electoral map may resemble the 1964 map in which President Lyndon B. Johnson defeated Sen. Barry Goldwater (R-Arizona) with a whopping 486 electoral votes, or President Bill Clinton's 1996 victory over Sen. Bob Dole (R-Kansas), in which he secured 379 electoral votes.

    "It’s gone from a drastic landslide in Trump’s direction to a drastic landslide for Harris," Miller said of his forecasting model.

    Even prior to the June debate between Trump and President Joe Biden — which was widely viewed as the catalyst for Biden's eventual exit from the 2024 race — Miller's metrics predicted a staggering defeat for Biden. He forecasted that Trump could win as many as 400 Electoral College votes prior to Biden's disastrous debate performance, which went as high as nearly 500 electoral votes.

    But after Biden dropped out and endorsed Harris — prompting a surge of excitement from the Democratic base and hundreds of millions of dollars in new fundraising — the odds flipped in the vice president's favor in just a few weeks. Despite Trump catching up to Harris in the wake of the Democratic National Convention and getting back into a virtual tie with the vice president, Harris blew past him once again after last week's debate, which was viewed by 67 million Americans.

    "Within a day after the candidates left the podium, Harris had jumped to exactly over 400 electoral votes," Fortune's Shawn Tully wrote. "The Harris endorsement from Taylor Swift, secured the day of the debate, probably helped sink Trump’s chances, according to Miller. Since then, Harris has maintained [her] 400-plus vote total."

    The most hotly contested battleground states — which include Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, North Carolina, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin — will ultimately decide which candidate crosses the 270-vote threshold. Miller is predicting a clean sweep for Harris in all of them.

    “We’re talking about a blowout where Harris gets over 400 electoral votes and wins Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and every other swing state," he said.

    Miller based his model around betting trends on PredictIt, which is the largest betting market for U.S. politics. Tully explained that Miller "took the Predictit odds in the 56 individual voting jurisdictions, tracked the hourly changes, and used his proprietary model to roll the data into daily odds." Miller said he viewed PredictIt as more accurate than traditional polling, which uses a much smaller sample and is typically a week behind current trends.

     
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    Ackman and a small group of others need to get some perspective. We don’t live in the United States of Israel. Whatever is happening in Israel and Palestine is way down on the list of concerns. It isn’t an obsession for most Americans and even most Jews I know.

    There are actual concerns in the USA, we don’t need Twitter black holes of drama to give us something to be upset about.

    The USA has been involved too much in Middle Eastern politics. Stay out of it. If it’s so important to Ackman he can take up a backpack and wonder into the Middle East and find a Crusade like many men from places like Pakistan and Yemen do… until then he can enjoy his yachts and wealth and social media driven drama - but he has to know it’s all foolishness.
     
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    It only took 30 seconds for there to be a lie. The rest of it - it’s an opinion piece, which is fine.
     
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    At the debate you watched. You knowingly spread misinformation.

    VICE PRESIDENT KAMALA HARRIS: Well, let's understand how we got here. On Oct. 7, Hamas, a terrorist organization, slaughtered 1,200 Israelis. Many of them young people who were simply attending a concert. Women were horribly raped. And so absolutely, I said then, I say now, Israel has a right to defend itself.

     
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    Ackman is referring to the clip he quoted.

    And he is correct that while she gives lip service to how bad Hamas is (to get elected), she always only tries to put pressure on Israel.

    She boycotted Netanyahu's speech and has several Islamist "advisors" who have ties to terror funder Iran.
     
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    Ackman is a billionaire who has gone the Musk route. He recently pushed a tweet about a conspiracy theory that ABC gave Harris questions before the debate. His source is a nobody on the internet providing a Word document with an affidavit claiming it’s from an ABC whistleblower, with zero proof to back it up. This kind of information used to be ignored by normal people, but now we have folks like Trump, Musk, and Ackman tweeting it as if it's gold.
     
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    Ignoring what has been said and taking a clip from his echo chamber to make a statement like that makes it even worse.

    Your opinion is well known, and it adheres to this: if you aren't 100% for Bibi, you are against Israel. If you support Palestinian rights, you are 100% against Israel. It's an extremist position.

    Netanyahu isn't Israel. Israelis hate his guts and want him to step down.
     
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    This is what Kamala spends your tax money on.

     
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    This is why Trump needs to lose, we don't want to be stuck with our own version of Netanyahu.

    Trump is a ****ing idiot and his followers are as well.

    DD
     
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    I have been thinking that a Harris landslide is possible. It seems like we’re reaching a tipping point in support for Harris where it dramatically rises on its own. One sign of this is the wave of endorsement she is seeing not just from politicians including Republicans but from pop stars and media figures. Harris becomes more than just a political candidate but a cultural phenomena like Obama was.

    At the same time I’m seeing some signs of Trump support softening and even in conservative circles some either getting disgusted or dispirited regarding Trump.

    I still wouldn’t put money on a Harris landslide as we still have a several weeks to go and we’ve seen things change fast. Also Trump does have a fanatical following and no matter what he does still seem to have at least a third of voters with a fair amount of them in the battleground states.
     
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    Your own tweet says she won it after launching a lawsuit against the state of Indiana. The president has very little control over what happens in state prisons and also this sounds like a court mandated and not a politically mandated action.
     
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    I haven't heard too much talk of a landslide victory. The Harris campaign claims they are the underdog and Walz said they down by a field goal in the 4th quarter.

    But I can see that Harris is something new, and people are tired, grumpy Trump trying to scare people and just talk crazy stuff like his crowd sizes and Haitians eating people's pets.

    I think they see that with Trump it will never end. Harris/Walz played it smart highlighting joy and presenting not just a contrast in policy but a contrast in mood and personality.

    Anything could still happen. But Harris has a chance.
     
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    Its hard to get to landslide territory (like Obama's 2008 win). The country is quite a bit more polarized and the two biggest swing targets (Florida and Ohio have swung to the right since 2008). Both states voted to the right of the US as a whole even back then but the gap has grown quite a bit since then (especially in the case of Ohio). The other state of note is Iowa that has taken the most rapid shift to the right and has gone from voting to the left of the US as a whole in 2008 to voting to the right of both Florida and Ohio. Dems are capable of winning Arizona and Georgia nowadays which offsets Florida but Biden's performance in 2020 is actually near the top in terms of possible electoral college outcomes for Democrats.
     
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    I largely agree with this and think it’s most likely this is a still a close election. What makes a
    Landslide for Harris possible though is that we’re seeing softening of support for Trump in FL and IA. FL has several issues that benefit the Democrats such as the abortion referendum and a good senate candidate running agains an unpopular incumbent. I don’t think Harris or Walz have campaigned at all in IA and that they are in striking distance of Trump shows that support is softening for Trump.

    I fully agree that Harris should continue to run as an underdog and no one should consider the election far from over. Her campaign doesn’t appear to do this.
     
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    Deporting 15-20 million people from the United States would be an all around disaster. First, many of those 15-20 million people have family in the USA, including children born in the USA.
    Second it would require gestapo like raids to arrest that many people and hold them.
    Third, half or more of the country would be against the raids and civil unrest and wide spread violence would happen.
    Fourth, the economic ramifications would be widespread and inflation would spiral.
    Fifth, many nations wouldn’t take the people back after so long.

    This is like a lot of what Trump says - not well thought out nonsense that appeals to people at a base level.
     
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    This is like the Wall. It’s an unrealistic proposal thrown out there to rile up the base. if Trump does win he will either ignore it or try to make it happen ham handedly like he did with trying to get Mexico to pay for the wall.
     
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