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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. fchowd0311

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    With all of the bickering we havent touched on the biggest clean up Jalen needs to focus on this coming season IMO. Its not making 2 or 3 more jump shots per week. Its becoming way better at finishing near the basket. For a guy who finds himself at/above the rim so often we need him to convert way more than 49% of those shots/layups. Fortunately its the easiest shot to make on the floor and Im expecting him to come in bigger and more able to finish through contact and attack rim defenders for points/free throws.
     
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    Where did that 49% number come from? Basketball reference has his 0-3 ft at 69.2%. He's terrible outside of 3 feet but that seems to be his one strength
     
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    I think there is overall rim efficiency and then specifically rim efficiency on drives to the rim.
     
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    edit: looks like a running tab over the 3 years in question on this graphic which is broken down by height. There was another graphic recently that plotted all the zones on the court and it had Jalen as one of the worst near the rim.
     
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    What would account for the 20% difference? That's a massive gap, is the 49% on contested layups and bball reference just all rim attempts?
     
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    edit: this one seems to be capturing the zone outside of the layups so it doesnt apply 100%, but still not great.
     
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    I have him at 52.8% for last year

    Just use the NBA’s stats from the SportsVu cameras and decide for yourself. That’s where all these 3rd-party stat comes from.

    https://www.nba.com/stats/player/1630224/shooting?DateFrom=

    Scroll down and you’ll see all playtypes the cameras have been programmed to capture. It’s an inexact science, so for improvement on finishing drives, I’m only looking at playtypes starting with “Driving”, and disregarding the floating shots.

    So, we can disagree on which types to use, but for finishing drives, these are enough for me to add up:
    1. Driving dunks
    2. Driving finger roll layups
    3. Driving layups
    4. Driving reverse layups
    = 162 out of 307 = 52.8%​

    And from the way nba.com presents these playtypes in other ways, I’m confident each FGA is only counted once, ie not included twice under difference categories.
     
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    See my post above
     
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    53% is still pretty bad.

    Again it should be the easiest shot to fix. Jalen starts hitting those easy shots at a higher clip and all the other "stats" start to become easier to digest.
     
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    One of the things he needs to fix to raise his rim efficiency is to read the court better. Passing it when defense is collapsing on him instead of forcing difficult shots with tunnel vision is something he needs to improve.
     
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    Exactly.
     
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    Not sure how that improves his low average near the rim, but maybe reducing those shots could help alleviate the issue somewhat. I'd also like for the refs to be consistent in how they call fouls on Jalen. He's one of the most hacked players going to the rim. He should be shooting 10 FTs per game.
     
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    Actual valid criticism. Yes, most of his driving paint efficiency is a product of bad decisions rather than poor finishing talent. A large brunt of Jalen Green's driving attempts at the rim are going to be way more heavily contested than the average player partly because he's asked to create more of his own shot than the average player and he makes poorer decisions at the rim when it comes to passing off vs attempting to finish compared to the average player. But a lot of that poor decision making has more to do with over confidence than slow processing as I've seen him process things quickly sporadically. It just seems like he still had a lot of the high school mentality in him of being just so much more athletic and physically gifted than his peers but that gap significantly closing once joining the NBA.
     
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    But don’t telegraph
    But fake by telegraphing
     
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    I was encouraged that he added more finishing moves as the season progressed. Less straight line.

    I’m also encouraged by him getting stronger, to finish and draw fouls.

    But little is going to help me “digest” poor spot-up, 3PT shooting and lack of a goto middie. The middie at 15-19’ above the FT line is there, and key to beating some PnR defense. Plus, he had good numbers there after Jan 1st, so I’m feeling that.

    But as for feeling the spot-up 3 and pull-up 3, I’m on the nervous side…praying.

    That said: Roosh is apparently feeling it … this is the year :cool:
     
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    If Jalen hits those 6< feet shots at a better clip his TS rises. Its the easiest way for him to offer the stat bros some evidence of improvement. Hitting 3's is exponentially harder, but even though it has yet to happen I feel that Jalen can knock down a few more of those shots every week to get that average around 37%. Having a "go to" middie is not a part of his game. Only .061 of his shots have come from the 10-16 foot range thus far in his career. Watching him practice with a sense of understanding on how to switch gears this summer was refreshing so maybe he can slow down in that zone and add that to his bag. Not everything needs to be run at 100mph (except transition which is an area that they could allow Jalen to flourish more in).

    Roosh is feeling it? LOL well that settles it boys we're winning it all next year!
     
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    He knows his rights

     
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