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The German Problem

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Agent94, Sep 16, 2024.

  1. fchowd0311

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    So you believe "humans who make claims about Haitian immigrants eating pets" is a ethnic or racial group that one can be bigoted towards.


    I'm offended at the CEO of a manufacturing plant calling the native population of Springfield lazy drug addicts because his class of people protect entities like the Sackler family who caused this mess.

    But I'm not offended at labeling a specific group of native Springfield residents who claim that Hatians are stealing and eating their pets as meth heads. They deserve to be called worse.
     
  2. fchowd0311

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    You know what.

    Yes I'm bigoted towards people who spread hersay of immigrant communities stealing and eating pets with no basis in reality to spread fear of said immigrant community.


    You are bigoted towards the Hatian immigrant community for existing as Haitian immigrants.

    I guess we are the same :rolleyes:
     
  3. durvasa

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    I think you are much too quick to stereotype and ascribe bad motives to people who you disagree with, so I understand why you'd have a different opinion on this point.

    When people are speaking in casual conversations, they can stumble over uncommon sound combinations, like an "nm" consonant sound. It happens all the time.

    Does it really make zero sense that this can happen? Really?
     
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  4. HTM

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    Pretty sure he has a mental illness. Explains the 51,000 posts and the self-righteous obsession with calling anyone to the right of him an evil bigot.
     
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  5. HTM

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    I believe calling people you have 0 information about drug addicts simply because they are from a particular region bigotry.

    Because you know.. it is... it's a loathsome attribution made simply because they are from the rust belt.
     
  6. fchowd0311

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    If you do a simple search like "national review black crime" and read the plethora of articles from that site , it's not that difficult to assume the editor of the site causally used that term behind closed doors.


    No, it's hard for me to see how someone starts off with "ni" syllable when trying to say "migrants".

    The difficulty here is you understanding that I have more experience than you in conservative right wing bubbles and understand how causally that term is used.

    In your head you probably assume I'm in some leftist basement echo chamber of reddit and clutchfans d&d.

    When I understand how casually that term is used amongst conservative circles when zero black people are around makes me not charitable. And it helps being of South Asian decent because a lot of white nationalist believe that the Asian immigrant community are positively respective to bigoted rhetoric of Black people.
     
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  7. fchowd0311

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    I actually do have information about them. I know they make fake accusations of a hard working immigrant community stealing and eating cats and dogs of American pet owners. That's enough for me to feel comfortable insulting them.

    You can't shame me into feeling bad about insulting these type of people who make blood libel accusations of immigrants like I can't make you feel bad about spreading blood libel claims of Hatian immigrants in America.

    I guess we are both headstrong in that sense. We got our principles.
     
  8. Agent94

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    I'm not trying to be funny. This is an area known for German assaults and cannibalism. Are you saying Germans don't have dark hair? Hitler was German and had dark hair. Coincidence? I don't think so.
     
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  9. HTM

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    Evasion again. You refuse to address the point or stay on topic because its insupportable. The persons making reports about the park geese. Specifically the persons who made reports to the authorities about the park geese. Those specific persons. You definitively stated they are drug addicts.

    No speaking in generalities. No talking about the pets.

    Bigoted statements claiming people are drug addicts with no basis other then they live in the rust belt.

    Bigotry.
     
  10. fchowd0311

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    Yes they probably are drug addicts. Making fake reports about a immigrant group requires some damaged personal life.


    Now explain how Hatian immigrants steeling park geese is plausible.
     
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    You didn't say, "probably are" - you did not qualify your statement at all. You said it definitively. Did you not?
     
  12. fchowd0311

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    Also understand you throwing the accusation of bigotry back at me doesn't really do anything for me. I know it's just you trying to throw that accusation around because you feel as if I'm throwing that accusation around loosely therefore I deserve to have the same thing happen to me. I understand that is your mindset.

    But understand I sincerely believe you are bigoted. You come to a NBA team fan message board "asking questions " bout whether the rumors of Hatian immigrants in Springfield are true when the basis of those claims are the same level of credibility as claims made by random yokels in Europe claiming that Jews drain the blood of gentile babies. Any one who isn't bigoted during that time period would see those as claims that aren't credible enough to "ask questions about". These are claims that normal people roll their eyes over...

    The fact the you are "asking questions" about something so obviously fake that is blood libel of a immigrant group is why you are bigoted.
     
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    Okay every single Ohio resident who spread claims that Haitians are stealing pets and eating them and stealing Park geese and eating them are all meth heads. 100% of them.

    Shame on my bigotry I guess?:rolleyes:
     
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  14. HTM

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    Yea, shame on your for calling these people, who you don't know, drug addicts without any basis simply because they are from the rust belt.

    You'd be absolutely hounding anyone else making a loathsome attribution to someone with 0 basis simply because they live somewhere if you found them to be a group of persons you're more sympathetic towards.

    "That Colombian wife beater can't be trusted" - What basis do you have to say he's a wife beater? Well, I don't know that he's a wife beater but rates of domestic violence in Colombia are really high.

    "That Indian rapist can't be trusted" - What basis do you have to say he's a rapist? Well, I don't know that he's a rapist but India has the most problematic rape culture in the world.

    The irony is off the charts. You are so pathetic.
     
  15. HTM

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    You deserve to be called a bigot because you've made bigoted statements.

    I don't deserve to be called a bigot because I haven't and you cannot point to any. Quote just one.

    You're just a psycho loser with 51,000 posts on clutchfans who hounds people as a hobby.
     
  16. fchowd0311

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    It's times like these where sometimes to lower the temperature both sides must admit to our flaws.

    I think we can agree that my flaw is that I'm bigoted towards residents of Ohio who make blood libel claims about he Springfield Hattian immigrant community and your flaw is you are bigoted towards Hattian Immigrants by doing the "just asking questions" playbook over blood libel claims over Hattian immigrants.
     
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    It is PLAUSIBLE they are drug addicts since employers are saying they are having a difficult time finding NON-HATIANS, who can pass a drug test.
     
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    The sad thing about that CEO's statement is that it might cause more division between the new immigrant population and the existing population with those type of statements. Its human nature to be struggling in life and then be jealous and have animosity when a new group of people who have their stuff squared away come in and do their jobs better. That's harsh and you can't blame these people fully because many of them yes have been victims of people like the Sackler family.
     
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    Sounds PLAUSIBLE
     
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  20. HTM

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    @fchowd0311 didn't say "could be", "might be" or anything of the sort. He said they were drug addicts. It was an unqualified and definitive statement. It was bigoted. We don't know the person(s). They may not even be from the area. They have may have just been passing through or visiting. @fchowd0311 made a sweeping and loathsome generalization about person(s) merely predicated on where they were from.

    The very thing he has accused me of repeatedly and failed to show.

    Statements like "Indian men are rapists" and "Latin American men are wife beaters" are ok by @fchowd0311 because statistically speaking in those regions there are alleviated instances of those issues.

    @fchowd0311 would hound anyone to the end of the earth for making that assertion.

    What a joke. :rolleyes:
     

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