What it comes down to is honesty. The truth is that Jalen was spectacular from March 14th to March 29th and basically terrible the rest of the season. When you allow bad faith actors to start lying and extending that to all of March.... then extending it to the whole rest of the season.... then extending it to the entire second half of the season If we allow bad faith actors to outright lie in an effort to push false narratives it creates more toxicity than just shutting that **** down would.
Whats subjective about the numbers? They're either made up or they're not. So are they or aren't they?
Bobby knows. Ask him. you also do know presentation of information and interpretation of information can be subjective correct? I assume you understand this as the business world uses these techniques all the time.
Stating stats without context is just being disingenuous or just showing lack of knowledge. You need to ask why? And then look into it. Don't assume. Here is an article that breaks it down: https://www.si.com/nba/rockets/houston-rockets-jalen-green-resiliency-leads-late-season-surge Besides injuries during the 8 games in April: VanVleet (2), Dillon (1), Amen (1), Holiday (1) while already being shorthanded without Sengun and Tari Eason. The article states: [ Jason Kidd was trying to orchestrate a plan to slow down the streaking Houston Rockets, ... came up with a simple solution, "take the ball out of Jalen Green's hands." ... Kidd's defensive schemes came 4 days after Green's proficient performance against the Thunder. His strategy gave opponents a blueprint to maintain...] When teams can't beat you they got to double, triple team ya. Ultimate compliment to the player himself....but you are a paid schill that is deaf, dumb and blind to reality. Keep your blindfold on. We see you for your nonsense. The theory is Sengun, Tari, Reed Sheppard, and everyone improving, as much needed help the next time teams use that strategy.
Best I can tell he's posturing as if he has a counter argument to somehow refute what the objective numbers say.... but he doesn't actually have a counter argument. He just sort of wants you to think he does.
The context was, here was Jalen Green's performance before, during, and after the 8 game hot shooting streak.... I think you are confusing "context" with "excuses for Jalen Green's poor performance"
Also he played well in a slew of games after the “streak” including against MIN and final game against DAL. But this is what happens when people only look at box scores or metrics having no idea what transpired on the court.
He's presenting the information as a microcosm of how Jalen has been as a player. Mostly bad with the occasional hot streak. That's how it reads to me, but your description or implication is that he's lying or the numbers are wrong. Which I guess they aren't. So it seems like your issue is that they're painted in a way to make Jalen look worse. But the reality is that that's just kinda what Jalen's numbers do regardless of the manner in which they're presented. They make Jalen look bad because....they're bad.
Nah. As I said no point. Just know you views are shi+. You never have any real in depth analysis and you are heavily biased and hateful. So there’s never any point in discussing anything with you. I just like to remind you of the world of shi + you live in
There's a difference between "his numbers are bad" and "that's who he is". That's the point of distinction you're not acknowledging. If Jalen succeeds we will say there were reasons for his depressed numbers which make sense in retrospect. If he fails they will be called excuses. Either way there are things that can delay development. I think if we can all get past the point of expecting him to pay us back for the Silas years, it's pretty easy to make an assessment. Does he have potential right now? What do the coaches say about his coachability? Are Udoka and his staff great at developing players? Is it possible that Jalen's second season under Udoka will be better than his first season of decent coaching he ever had in his life? I think there are just plenty of signs that tell me he is a late bloomer who just needed someone to finally teach him the fundamentals of winning NBA basketball. Udoka is all over the players this summer, there's reason to feel confident. You can see the work being put in moreso than regular workout videos.
I really don't think Silas was the problem, his offense got Jalen a huge percentage of open / wide open shots which Jalen bricked at a high rate, he was shooting something like 23% those shots that first year. There aren't many easier shots in the NBA. The problem, I think, was his AAU coaches (and those before that), he was horribly unprepared for the NBA in a coaching sense, he had few tools other than his athleticism & his shot was broken, the mechanics ugly and couldn't defend a baby wrapped in a blanket - and to top it off, he had that same green light Silas gave him. He'd supposedly been getting high level coaching for most of his teenage years - could have fooled me. Those were yes men, they were using him and Jalen suffers for it. I give Jalen a lot of credit for developing his game .... now he just needs to shoot a bit better on a consistent basis.
I definitely can't brush the Silas years under the rug like that. I've been through that discussion a ton of times. You can generate a bunch of wide open looks for Clint Capela too but that doesn't mean they're shots he is good at making. Let's not get into a debate about a coach universally considered terrible and suddenly have to defend that his offense sucked and development was putrid. Come on hardly anyone developed the way you would expect from first round picks. Jalen Green was sold to us as almost NBA ready but actually he arrived as a HS'er with 1 month of fan-less G League experience. Ignite players have all looked like they are lagging in development. We should think about him like a player drafted out of HS. What's the first thing you do with that player? You teach them fundamentals. Compared to tanking teams we did a garbage job of that. The perfect model for me is Kobe though it would be tough to replicate. Bring him off the bench for two years, teach him winning fundamentals, make him earn his minutes and spot while adding muscle. Don't let his confidence drop, keep the number of shots low. Incredible all star and all NBA veterans on the roster. Coach of the year who also happens to be a psychology major. No one gets things that perfect but we were the exact opposite of that lol. I think under normal circumstances it should have been year 3 where we see him take a step. Instead we're getting it in year 4. I don't think it's all that shocking. What else would explain his struggles if/after he ascends into a better player?
Rockets were 4 games back of GS Warriors going into that game (GSW 42-34) (Hou 38-38) https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/202404040HOU.html Rockets won 3 of the last 6 games even though they were 5 games back of the Warriors after that April 4th game. Any player getting the trapping at half court and throwing multiple defenders at a player in the half court is going to have shaky numbers. It's a team sport and when other players didn't step up.......Jalen Green had to force up shots against those multiple defenders. Players on both sides were planning vacations and thinking about going fishing. Even you stopped watching the Rockets when the Rockets were streaking. Doubt you returned to watch the Rockets in April. You come back now and take stats now at face value as if everything was business as usual. Don't bother to express the back stories of the games at the time. Yeah, yeah everything was good and all teams were fully healthy and all stats obtained during those games were legit.....teams were not forcing the ball out of Greens hands, was actually left unguarded and Jalen put up piss poor numbers. You wish, GTFOH!! Deceptive Jagoff Jalen role was different to start the season.....to changing when Sengun went out..... to totally defended differently at the end of the season. Context matters.
The thing is alot of those are players coaches that are not in charge of development......that is where those developmental coaches come in. Jahmal Mosley was a former developmental coach and now head coach. He knows his stuff.
Jalen Green didn't get a huge percentage of wide open shots. Because "wide open shots" in NBA stat tracker is a joke if you analyze what they consider "open shots" Those snatch backs and step backs on Lou Dorts, Wiggins etc are considered "open" and "wide open" shots.
