Lol of course I do. I mean look at your post history with Green. Please don't be coy my dude. It's a weak look
haha ok, i take back what i said since it was so mean, i don't want the 8 game version of jalen green ever!!!!
Don't take back what you said dude. Defend your premises or deal with people having opinions about your basketball takes. It's okay if people think you are a hater of a nba player. That doesn't define you as a person.
my god you're ridiculous sometimes, but ya i'm a grownup so i couldn't care less if people think i "hate" jalen (which is obviously laughably asinine) because i think he's been terrible (because he's been terrible)
Ya I'm sorry but "terrible" is being a hater for a kid who was the youngest player to reach 4000 pts in the franchise with the second youngest being almost 2 years older or a kid who is top 10 in scoring averaging before turning the age of 22. "Slightly below expectations" for a number 2 overall 19-22 year old scoring guard or a "a bit disappointing" is reasonable. And yes I am understanding the context of the modern era in scoring and younger players given higher usage in the modern era. And it's obvious in the fact im labeling a kid who is top 10 in scoring average in league history before age 22 as "slightly disappointing". At face value someone doing that a person would assume he's going to be a future superstar near guaranteed and I'm saying "slightly disappointing". So ya "terrible" is hater territory.
All good, hopefully you end up being right, i'm definitely rooting against myself in this situation and would be trilled to be as wrong as possible!
Honestly the biggest issue I have with that poster is that he chooses to be a dishonest piece of **** so often. He knows he's lying, but pushing his false narrative is the ONLY thing he's concerned with.
Here's the numbers again, just so dishonest pieces of **** will have a harder time lying about it. The games played the 30 days before the 8 game streak 50.7% TS% 30.7% from 3 18.4/4.5/ 3.4 The 8 game hot shooting streak 66% TS% 47.7% from 3 33.8/7.8/4 The rest of the season after the streak ended 49.2%TS% 27% from 3 16.6/5.4/4.4 He was trash, then spectacular for 8 games, then back to trash. Sorry kids, that's what actually happened.
I don’t respond to your shi+ posts but can’t pass this one up. this probably is your worst one lmao. Proof of your ignorance
You aren't the dishonest one, you're the moron, so I understand if you failed to comprehend what I posted... it really wasn't intended for you.
Hilarious how you were dishonest with your presentation while criticizing another for the same exact thing lmao pure comedy
It's hard to fully understand how many points a player contributes per possession just by looking at those three stats separately. They are not equivalent for one thing. FT is probably the most powerful play in the basketball. League-wide average of FT% is 78.4%. That's 1.57 points per possession. The average for the three point shot is 36.6%. That's 1.1 points per possession. For the two point shot the numbers are 54.5% and 1.1 respectively. Standards are much different for each. 2pt and 3pt may seem like equally efficient, but that actually is a by-product of long contested two pointers mostly being eliminated from the game. If you are efficiently scoring near the cup, yeah, keep doing that. That's very optimal. TS% is the best available estimation of scoring efficiency because it acknowledges all these differences. If you compare two high volume scorers just look at their TS%. You don't need to do statistical analysis on each shot type one by one. TS% already does that for you. Big time save.
No metric will tell you more than the stats the metric is derived from. That's technically impossible. Actually, they have to tell less, since you lose information. The point is when you combine stats in a meaningful way, you can measure something, in this case overall shooting efficiency, that the individual stats don't measure, and is hard to compare players by looking at the individual stats. You can't look at 100 players and see which one is the more efficient by looking at individual stats. That's why you measure true shooting. And how possessions are calculated are not arbitrary. You want to measure efficiency to your best based on box score. The possessions other than and 1s you mentioned will not move the ts% of any player in any meaningful way, that's why there is no extra effort to include them. And 1's also won't move ts% of most players. only in extreme cases it will make an observable difference. That's why you use the coefficient that makes the best estimate for the whole league, rather than calculating it for each player. And if you are aware, for what type of player it will make a difference this is also no problem at all.
Lol, okay, I'll bite. Explain how you think posting the exact numbers was "dishonest"... if you can. I mean, I get that you don't like what the numbers say... but they speak pretty loudly. Jalen was awful before the 8 game streak, amazing during the streak, then back to pathetic the second the streak ended. I get that you'd love to dilute the 8 game hot streak to make it appear as if it was longer... but that's the dishonesty I'm shutting down.
I find this streak discussion pretty meaningless. Jalen was spectacular in March and underwhelming for the rest of the season. That's all there is to it. Discussing it any further doesn't seem to produce valuable analysis as far as I see. It just provides an excuse for people to argue like they are kindergarten kids.
I understand that bro. My point is TS% isn’t providing any information we don’t already know. Lebron had a high TS% last year. He shot .410 from 3 and .600 from 2. No shi+. Obi Toppin had a higher TS% than Lebron. According to the TS% metric he is a more “efficient” scorer. But again what does this really tell you. Certainly it doesn’t tell you Toppin is a better scorer than Lebron or better player. This is the issue with relying on one metric or even metrics alone for that matter. In the case of Green 45% of his FGA have been from 3s. He shoots below league average in 3’s hence a lower TS%. Again no shi +. We all know this. And we should look at that metric as only one tool or one indicator of how a player performs in light of other information both quantitative and qualitative.
And there are those who obscure truth in the presentation of information. Speaking of analysis any analysis or assessment should not rely solely on metrics.
