They aren't intentionally doing it, they just end up doing so accidentally as a result of picking bad battles and the wrong things to lie about. The conversations those lies lead to contribute to the degradation of their deity. Imagine if you had the world's most insane Ben Simons fan trying to compare their guy to Lebron.... that is going to lead to a really rough conversation for their guy all because they were dumb enough to go there.
I'm a strong believer Carroll Dawson was near the top of the totem pole. [ May he R.I.P. ] Old School that likes the big post up presence that has won one championship in the last 16 years. Team preference may change somewhat this season if Patrick Fertitta gets more say in the matter. Patrick loves fast pace, 3's, set your hair on fire and let's go !! We got the horses for that......minus a good stretch 5.
If Fertitta removes Stone in favor of Patrick then this rebuild will go down like the Hindenburg. Nothing moves the needle like a bonafide superstar in the NBA and while I love the accumulation of talent we have and I do think some of them could reach that status eventually a big name will pop up on the market that nobody saw coming and the Houston Rockets will be ready to pounce.
You have a point .... My response was more due to my being annoyed with so many posters feeling the need to be insulting to others .... Everyone who doesn't agree with them is the world's biggest idiot - moron - r****d - dumbass - knows nothing about basketball .... bla bla bla. It's almost like talking politics .... It really doesn't help drive conversation ... Some of them should have been terminated long ago. Over on the Texans forum, where I've been a mod for many years, we have a golden rule - Attack the post, not the poster. We have very few insult laden posts there .... and the conversation is usually civil.
I think RJ Barrett is a good comparison, he was also a high lottery pick who put up disappointing shooting numbers (worse than Jalen's). After much debate over whether or not to extend him, the Knicks ultimately did extend him - well below the max (70%) - then traded him to Toronto 26 games into the 2023/24 season. Improvement this season will make or break his getting a max or not - but to this point, I think a contract similar to Barrett's 70% of the max is s likely outcome with the status quo - Some team (maybe the Rockets) will gamble on his upside.
Well I stand by: Jalen Green, Jabari. Tari Eason, Cam Whitmore. All players I wanted at draft time (and prior). I'm a believer, Patrick has more pull than people think. I'm a believer he sent out Capela to give us Micro-Ball using Tucker and Covington as our Centers. That missing 27 missed 3's with players unable to dribble has everyone traumatized. I would use 3 & D players that can put the ball on the floor. That's what wins today. Unfortunately Patrick still favors the 6'3" and under players way too much for my liking. These Reed Sheppard types gears for great offense but God awful defense. Give me real wings !!! Switch everything defensively. So, i do think Patrick was on to something back then.....while he wanted a bunch of 6'3" little guys who can shoot, dribble, pass.....guys like Westbrook, McLemore, Austin Rivers, ( Harden at 6'4").......teams have taken off with that theory , but using taller wings to get it done. Wings 6'6" to 6'9" are dribbling better and passing nowadays. Wemby a much taller version of.
Interview with one of our development coaches who goes into detail about Sengun's work this summer. Great to know the Rockets sent a development coach all the way to Turkey to ensure that one of our core players keeps improving. Great to hear him describe our core as a bunch of "dogs" when it comes to working hard. Begging the universe to give us improved 3PT shooting from both Sengun and Green. The duo would become pretty unguardable if each of them can clear the paint for the other and remain a threat to the defense. Very encouraged by the fact that we seem to have the most hands-on coaching staff in rockets history. I feel like we're going to see big steps from at least a few players this coming season. They know so much more about each players weaknesses compared to last summer I feel like the coaches can ensure they're not working on random skills.
JG's stats overall last year: 32 MPG - 19.6 PTS - 6.9/16.2 FGs - .423 FG pct - .332 3P% - 7.4 3PA - .804 FT % - 3.5 AST - 5.2 RB What are we thinking it will look like this year? What is a good year? What is a max contract year look like? I think due to the mouths that we need to feed and his general inefficiency throughout the years I'm guessing we'll get more or of the same. 30 MPG - 20 PTS - .43 FG pct - .34 3P% - 6.0 3PA - .82 FT% - 3.7 AST - 5.0 RB Slight improvement all around but he'll go into restricted free agency and get a decent-ish offer he'll take from another team. If he can get the numbers up to say 35 MPG/45%/37%/24 PPG/6 AST/6 REBS that'd be an All-Star year and the Rockets will comfortably be a playoff team. What do you do if you're Stone and he does have a good year? Trust him with a contract extension that could be untradeable in a few years? Lace it like Zion?
This year's bench with possibly Tari, Reed, Cam, Amen, Steve-O at times should be much better than last year's...... The Green narratives continue but I think they will make the Playoffs regardless if everything else clicks. All those players mentioned above possess flaws but their strengths together will make it a formidable team.
All 30 NBA Teams’ Most Disliked Player Who Even Their Own Teammates Couldn’t Stand (msn.com) Houston Rockets – Jalen Green Green was billed as the next ‘Kobe Bryant’ when the Rockets selected him as the 2nd overall pick in the 2021 NBA Draft. While it’s too early to judge if Green will truly become a star player in the future, there are recent reports where his past and present teammates were a bit concerned about his poor shot selection and the coaches’ blessing to give him the green light to shoot it every game.
I'm not sure how credible the report is, but it's one that would make sense. Most players don't like mindless chuckers who think they are stars....especially when the coaching staff props them up and encourages them to keep it up.
I want to see where they got this reporting from. MSN slideshow ad riddled content. Seems like no journalism here and just speaking from the ass. A casual fan who wants to generate content knows Jalen Green is a young talented inefficient guard and with that comes narratives you can assume like "teammates must not like him".
Issue is....what do we do if he has another ho-hum year at the SG position and still get the 5-7 seed or something? What's that worth? 20-25 mill a year? I think he's trying to get paid so ultimately it feels that unless he has an absolute breakout year, he's going to RFA and to another team because the Rockets aren't going to pay him max money and he (rightfully) feels like he could be the best player on a team somewhere. Whether or not it means Ws is another discussion. Zach Lavine and Bradley Beal are two examples of shooting guards that got paid a lot but just don't play a role important enough to warrant wins and are now proud owners of two of the worst contracts in the NBA. Tyler Herro is another example. How many SGs out there are honestly worth the max? The SG position at this point is like trying to get wing production without any of the physical tools that make wings valuable. If you look around the league, none of the best guards project like Jalen. Tyrese (PG) Brown (Wing) Fox (PG) Curry (PG) Harden (PG) Luka (PG) Brunson (PG) Edwards (SG) Trae (PG) SGA (SG). What bodes really poorly for him is that his best case scenarios or his best comparisons are all losing players with bad contracts. Lillard, Beal, Mitchell, Herro, and Lavine. SGA and Edwards are the only two SG's in the league that you can squint and project them being the best players on a title team but I don't see it with either of them either. They're just not good enough playmakers though SGA does have mind-numbing efficiency so....maybe? But the thought of Jalen ever being as efficient as SGA is....well...
Credible??? Lol. This is a guesstimation based upon looking from the outside. Some people (BOBBYTHEHATE) post things, hoping they will be true. SMH
You make good points. I see three really strong SGs last year: Brown, Edwards, and Booker. I think Edwards is a little overhyped but has shown he'll be great. Brown is great, he was the best player on a championship team (or at least better than Tatum). I've never liked Booker but he's still a great player. All the SGs down to Jalen are pretty meh to me. Dejounte may be a little better than the rest. But I see guys like Cam Thomas, McCollum, etc. What is Jalen worth? His max would pay him $45 million a year. I know this is an artifact of rising salaries, but $45 put him at #15 in the league in salary. He's not worth that. For me, he would have to play a year averaging 46% and 36% and 22 or 23 points a game. to be worth $40m. That's a year of consistently good play. He can have bad months of shooting but he can't just go on a tear for 20 games to get those averages. I see Jalen being 44% and 34% and 21.5 ppg (and that's if he improves). I want to know what Jalen optimists think he will average this season and what they think he will be worth. There will probably be a poll about this closer to the season. But there are money Jalen fans who like to talk about how stats don't matter. For the, I want to know what they expect to see from Jalen and how much they think it's worth.
I would be very surprised if it's true. Players like Jalen are the exact type of guys that other players typically think really highly of, because he has cool one on one highlights.
