So security concerns wasn't the issue, a damaged ego was the issue. Thanks for confirming. A cop performing any action based on a damaged ego should be removed from his position of authority plain and simple.
The actions by the officers does not indicate they were concerned for their safety. It's cool that you are attempting to mount a defense but your take is not consistent with the video evidence we have. As others have mentioned, he was not searched immediately and they never drew their weapons. Cops are heavily protected by their unions so even though they know public perception of them is at an all time low, they still mostly act on instinct in these moments and clearly they didn't believe the stop required drawing their weapons. Once he rolled up his window, if they were concerned with their safety, they should have stepped back and drawn their weapons and demand he step out of his car. Then, and only then would I have believed they were concerned for their safety.
Nope, there's already a notion/stigma that they're trigger-happy. This LEO didn't wanna be that guy, got him on the pavement to make sure everyone is safe n then they've let him go.
Deport every one of those sugar cane farming cops. They’d fit right in back home as Fidel’s goons. Tony Montana ass.
Let me ask you this, why not just inform Tyreek that he is under arrest for failing to comply with a lawful order and to step out of the vehicle? If Tyreek made a big spectacle out of it, then they could of broken his window and forced him out. Our argument stems from Tyreek being pulled out and thrown to the pavement. Why is that necessary in this particular situation? Where do these cops show concern for their safety? If your argument is, "well his windows are heavily tinted and they can't see", well then my next question is, why didn't the offers draw their weapons first and order Tyreek out of the vehicle? You can't seriously tell me that an officer is going to be concerned for their safety and they aren't going to draw their weapon if he suspects that he had a gun. I imagine that they would even step back away from the line of gun fire. The video does not demonstrate conduct that is consistent with needing to use excessive force.
Because he wasn't under arrest, he was placed in handcuffs for their safety. Happens all the time. After they had everything figured out/investigation concluded, they've let him go. Much better than someone getting shot or worse.
Agreed, you are right, I shouldn't have mentioned under arrest. The interaction should of went "Sir, we need you to step out of the vehicle, you are detained and for our safety we are placing you under handcuffs." Now lets go back to what happened: Cop: keep your window down or I'll get you out of the car Cop: as a matter of fact get out of the car So what happened in those moments? Why did the officer fear for his safety? Did he actually fear for his safety? Once again, going back to video evidence, nothing suggests that they were concerned for their safety, especially since it was several cops versus one individual.
Don't remember this energy concerning excessive police force when Mark Houck or Roger Stone were arrested - funny how that works.
I don't. It's no different than posters trying to use the phrase "well if Trump did this, you wouldn't be up an arms about it..." It really doesn't add much to the conversation, so I don't see how it helps the argument any. Thanks for admitting the use of excessive force, or at least, it very much feels like you do agree that excessive force was used to a degree, otherwise you wouldn't be bringing up those two individuals.
Don’t see you condeming people bringing up Trump in here… but my aside gets condemned? funny how that works? I didn’t state I thought excessive force was used.
4th amendment rights are not about race. You keep trying to troll. Man give up or at least be intelligent about it. Unfortunately you are doing neither. Let me guess you are going to try and bait me and write in a foreign language again and fail. lol.
No such thing as police brutality (as whole, individual cases sure). Some people didn't learn manners in their upbringing, so the cops gotta take 'em back to their childhood, rough 'em up a bit so they can learn. If anything the police is doing 'em a favor.
What does it matter if I condemn them? It's not going to change your mind on the actual topic we are discussing, correct? I see no purpose in discussing this particular issue since it adds nothing to the actual discussion.
Then don't quote and address my post that you consider off-topic if you don't want to address it? You decided to quote and address my post for being off-topic but you don't do that for the Trump posts. Because you're sympathetic to off-topic posts critical of Trump and not sympathetic to posts being critical of potentially excessive use of force for figures like Mark Houck or Roger Stone.
