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2024 Season Astros General Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by J.R., Apr 4, 2024.

  1. mvpcrossxover

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    it's crazy to say chas' avg is not that far behind from jake meyers' avg.

    jake has really fell off after a good (great?) start.
     
  2. Joe Joe

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    Chas has been sub-Maldonaldo in May and August. He wasn't good in April or July either, but those were more normal cold streaks (i.e., a good month can make up for a month this bad). Early June and lately, he's been hot.

    I think Meyers just hasn't had a really good hot streak since May. He's going to have bad months and good months. Sometimes he's going to have 3 bad months at the plate consecutively.
     
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  3. Tomstro

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    What really separates jake and chas (it’s not defense) this year is the May that Jake had. Other than that, Meyers has been pretty bad with the bat. His OPS in each month since May has been abysmal. Jake has had 1 good month (great May and an average April) and has been terrible ever since. Chas, however, hasn’t had a hot month at all.
     
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  4. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    Chas hasn't been really healthy until recently. You can tell by his defense. As we saw with Harden and Chris Paul, Hamstrings take a while to heal completely. I think Chas is finally healthy now.
     
  5. MadMax

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    Is this where one would post the video of Irish dancing for McCormick again? Asking for a friend.
     
  6. Tomstro

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    Very true. The hammy injury messed him up for a while. His confidence suffered too.
     
  7. Nook

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    He has repeatedly said he isn’t ready and is where he would be in Spring Training so I am not overly surprised or concerned. They can send him to AAA to work on it if they want.

    At some point Father Time wins - maybe he does this time. However he has looked over matched and old before and improved. It just may not be with the Astros.
     
  8. rockbox

    rockbox Around before clutchcity.com

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    I sure hope so. We all know Chas can hit. He's done that enough since he's entered the league. I just think he needs to be healthy and confident. Maybe Joe saw my recent comment and got him some banana pudding.
     
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  9. raining threes

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    Meyers is a 4th OF.

    Chas when he's right has proven to be a difference making bat. Both Meyers and Chas throw like girls. It's looking like Chas is starting to heat up enough that he's earned more playing time.
     
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  10. Tomstro

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    Let’s also not forget that Chas has only played about half the season so far, 241 at bats.
     
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  11. sealclubber1016

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    I'll be thrilled if Chaz puts its together and perform at his normal career level. He wasn't simply struggling, he was unplayable the previous 2 months. Meyers ,who was abysmal himself, was still far better.

    This is the second time in his career where he seemingly responded to a demotion with improved play.
     
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  12. IdStrosfan

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    I don't remember the details, but a couple if years ago Chas was struggling and sent down. Something happened and he came right back up and improved immediately.

    Very similar to this year.

    Play the hot hand in CF and if Jake is in CF, Chas, Gamel, Heyward, Dubon, and Yordan share LF.

    If Bregmand and/or Tucker need to DH things have to get creative.

    I still think that for 2025, having both he and Meyers on the team is a waste as both are so similar.

    Chas is much more well rounded, he is a bit slower in both the OF and bases, but both are above average or better. He is also clearly the better hitter and can play all 3 OF positions, unlike Jake.

    Jake has an extra year of control, but after 2024 their salaries will likely be very close since Meyers started so much and Chas slumped the first 5 months.

    But both hit lefties much better, K too much, will never challenge for a batting title, but get extra base hits, and not be able to hit the cutoff man on the fly.
     
  13. Snake Diggit

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    If Chas can produce at the rate he has averaged over his big league career, he’s a valuable player. An elite hitter against lefties and an average hitter against righties who can play an above-average LF and not-embarrassing CF. What Houston can expect from him next season might be the biggest question Houston has to answer going into the offseason.

    Meyers has a place on Houston’s roster no matter what. He is too good defensively. It would be awesome to have the luxury of relegating him to being a 4th OF and defensive replacement but it’s also completely ok if he’s the everyday CF, it just puts more pressure on them to deepen the lineup ahead of him.
     
  14. Joe Joe

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    There are a lot of OFs that are worse than Meyers starting. I'd guess over half the league (at least AL). Seems like almost every series the other team only has 2 OFs that can hit better than Meyers or has a guy that hits slightly better, but looks like Evan Gattis in the OF.
     
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  15. raining threes

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    How many championship level teams have what you're describing?
     
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  16. sealclubber1016

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    Moving forward, assuming Chaz's return sticks, he should start the majority of the time. Gamel and Meyers can platoon, with Chaz sliding over to CF. I think that will give us at least league average production from those 2 spots (not to mention Yordan).

    Hopefully Meyers has another hot streak left in him as well.
     
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  17. Tomstro

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    This is a bit misleading. It’s worded as if Chas has been playing and sucking the entire 5 months. He did miss a full month with an injury. He has 241 at bats and hasn’t been a regular starter since before his injury, in April. A full time starter gets that many at bats in barely over 2 months.
     
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  18. Joe Joe

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    I'd consider the Astros, Orioles, Yankees, and Guardians as the cream of the AL right now. Verdugo hits worse than Meyers. I can't remember who was the 3rd OF was for the Guardians, but he absolutely sucks. So of the 4 best AL teams, only 1 has three OFs better than Meyers assuming Chas isn't back.

    Also, 4th OF should not be defined by only Championship level teams. Championship teams should have better starters than most.

    Edit: Looking through AL teams real quick, it looks like 3 AL teams (Orioles, Red Sox, and Mariners) have 3 OFs better than Meyers. Wow! That's fewer than I thought. Maybe there has been some injuries that are affecting this.
     
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  19. raining threes

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    Give me the Korean dude/Brennan and Lane Thoms over the Stros with Meyers.

    Give me Crowser/Mullins/Santander over the Stros with Meyers.

    I would take the Yankees OF over the Stros. If I had to choose whether Verdugo or Meyers was coming up to bat with the game on the line, give me Verdugo.
     
  20. IdStrosfan

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    Agreed his opportunities were limited during that time.
     

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