[Indicted] Right Wing influencer network posted by losers was actually a bunch of Russian Dupes

Can you summarize what you said here. Because you said essentially nothing.

 

Lol. Like I said before, you're falling for red scare tactics even though we live in the mid 2020s

 

Do you think these countries had good governments?

 

nope. I hadn't seen anyone trying to argue that they did.

 

The progression of perceived slurs for regular people in ATW's mind:

Democrat
Liberal
Leftist
Communist

Hint: they're all the same person, he's the one who's changed

 

Nope.

As I explained before, the word "Liberal" is totally misused in the US. The people described as "liberals" are actually leftists. They are also not "progressive", they are at the same time mass obedient and authoritarian.

Nothing wrong with being a Democrat per se.

But the woke elements in the party have poisoned y'all's minds.

 

****, you're right!!!

I forgot "progressive" and "woke" on my list of your inanities

 

Correct. 99% of the time.

 

Here’s is what you actually meant to say.


See what I did there? It’s basically just an argument you are trying to make that one adjective or semantics are better than the other which are basically the same thing.

Democrats, liberalalism, being “woke”(aka aware of social injustice and motivated to make change), etc are basically the same thing. Some semantics are used as slander while others are used when you want to be more diplomatic which is basically never unless you are trying to make a case that you are diplomatic which you are not.

On the other hand as I showed, the semantics on the right/current Republican Party are similar in that these adjectives for the culture of on the right and the way it governs are align in the end.

So stop insulting our intelligence by trying to literally argument semantics. It’s like Trump the other day when he said about a Black Man “He’s one of the good ones”. The guy is black and other black people are black. People who vote and support Democratic policies are Democrats/Liberal/“woke”. People who support and vote for Republicans are labeled as Conservative/Freedom Caucus/Autocratic.

You can argue semantics all you want but everyone knows what they are voting for and supporting at this point. You sure as hell are aware of the BS you propagate on behalf of. It sure as hell isn’t liberalism.

 

Chinese and Iranian spies have deeply infiltrated the Democrats and the Biden/Harris administration. But they and the mainstream media they mostly control instead try to make it a big scandal that a few influencers got money from a company that may have gotten money from some entity in Russia.

It's an old playbook.

 

Trump, the coup plotting insurrectionist inciter began his rally yesterday by amping up the BS Stop the Steal rhetoric again.

“With your vote this election, their lying, cheating, thieving, hoaxing, and plotting will come to an end.”

“Three days ago it started again. The Justice Department said Russia may be involved in our elections again,” Trump said. “Russia. It’s Russia. And you know the whole world laughed at them this time.

“They said just the other day, the attorney general, ‘We are looking at Russia.’ And I said oh no. It’s Russia, Russia, Russia all over again,” Trump said, referring to the investigation into his 2016 campaign by special counsel Robert Mueller. “But they don’t look at China and they don’t look at Iran. I don’t know what it is with poor Russia.”

Poor poor Russia. Poor poor Donald. The man who claims to be wrongly accused of any crime he commits in his life. Putin's puppet.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4867678-trump-election-interference-efforts-russia/

 

Hit it on the nail.

There was a poster in the TX Going Purple thread who claimed that the U.S. is not a democracy but a republic. I wondered where he got that idea from, and then I heard the same thing from some of my MAGA friends. It seems there’s a post circulating in the MAGA echo chamber suggesting that democratic governance is akin to communism and that a constitutional republic will prevail (by the Grace of God). It sounds too absurd to believe, but we’re seeing posters here echoing similar sentiments and frequently throwing around the word "communism". These posters are consuming so much garbage daily that it's changing them, and they don’t even realize it.

 

This argument that the US is a republic and not a democracy has been around for awhile in Rightwing circles many were repeating it in 2020 and 2021 regarding Trump’s attempt to overturn the election.

 

Definitely. Saw this line for the first time probably around 2014 on my Facebook news feed when I was still using that site.

 

A multimillion dollar contact could buy me new friends and a mistress or wife.

Ponders maga career with comrades...

 

Catching up.

1. The people charged here are not Tenet Media, but 2 employees of RT that hired Tenet. Why aren't these two named in the media (that I've seen)? I presume they are in Russia and we will never actually get custody of them, is that right?

2. They have not charged the two people at Tenet, nor any of these influencers. It's not clear they could be charged with anything -- maybe violating sanctions? Assuming, as I did above, that we can't actually get our hands on the two RT people, was the whole point of leveling this indictment to get the news out in public that the Russians were trying to influence the election? From a national security perspective, I think that's justified, but I wanted to point it out that this isn't really the DOJ pursuing prosecutions so much as the DOJ doing counter-intelligence.

3. I'm trying to understand the implication of FARA charges here. I understand if you want to represent the interests of a foreign government or company to government policymakers, you need to register as a foreign agent. But to pay someone to say a certain thing on social media, you need to register as a foreign agent for that? What's the free speech implication of that? Or did we only do that because we know the Russians won't ever need to mount a legal defense in US courts to knock it down?

4. I hate listening to influencers' take on social and political events. Not just social media, I also hate the old-fashioned pundits and the newspaper editorials and op-eds. Mostly, it's because I don't have the patience, but there is also the issue of hidden motive. Putting the whole Russian influence to one side, does it not bother anyone else that these influencers signed a contract that would pay them for speaking on preferred topics of the benefactor? When this industry started, it was understood that the business model would be that they would get paid for advertising revenue by driving clicks. With this model, they get paid not for bringing the eyeballs but for telling the eyeballs particular things. Which means nothing they say can be regarded as their sincere belief. And if they don't believe, why should you believe it?

A social media influencer's take on the corruption among social media influencers? Lol, maybe not the right time.

How some of the biggest right-wing media stars ended up as unwitting puppets of Russian propaganda | CNN Business

 

They are named in the indictment.

Kostiantyn Kalashnikov and Elena Afanasyeva

 

This Filipowski dude is a leftist "influencer". Pot, Kettle, Black.