I think given how many guns are already in circulation, you cannot prevent gun incidents on school and university campuses 100 % from happening (sadly!). Even in countries with much fewer guns like Germany or other European countries, they happen (and when they happen, they seem to have a high death counts because European schools and police forces have been much less prepared to react quickly - this might be changing - especially stabbings have been becoming a bigger and bigger issue, with the influx of people from Muslim countries).
The argument was if he said that or not, he did. We have a poster outright denying it even happened. And u decided to go further and explain my stance for me which is quite astounding. We have a politican going around hiding behind bullet proof windows lamenting that school shooting is a way of life. That as useless as saying thoughts and prayers everytime a student dies to gun violence. The funniest thing is gun violence could b addressed in many ways yet nothing seems to b done bc the gun business is too profitable.
I just (selfishly, as my kids are in a private school) tried to do a little more research on school shootings in private schools in the last 30 years in the US. Looks like the total death toll in the last 30 years in private schools is somewhere between 10 and 20 dead children from school shootings. Still horrible. But statistically speaking, given that about 26 million children attended private K-12 schools in the USA in the last 30 years, this calms down my fears a bit. Doesn't make the overall societal problem any less bad, but individually, as a parent, I realize that my kids' risk of that is low, compared to other potential risks.
He didn't say they are "a way of life". Also, I am very sure that the personal risk of a politician in his position of getting assassinated is many multiple times higher than that of a school child getting shot.
I've had several friends growing up that were given guns as gifts. But these guns were locked away in a safe spot until it was time to go to the deer lease. My wife and I both got our own handguns during the pandemic. To me this falls on the parents and is another glaring mental health case, for not only the teen but the disillusioned father and thought it was a good idea to give their son a gun after learning what he wanted to do. I hope America never goes full Australia but there needs to be better measures in place, although how would say a background check have stopped this father with a clean record from giving his son a gun?
This has also been the most logical way i’ve addressed the risk with my daughter. Her school is layered with protections. Two solid metal doors you need parental codes to open (changed every few months). Someone is always present at the front desk. More solid metal doors in each classroom and cameras everywhere. Sad that I have to pay $15k a year to get that in this country when my taxes are used to buy million dollar missiles.
I completely agree with you. It’s frustrating you have to pay $15k a year for basic security when so much of our tax money is spent (aka wasted) elsewhere. I remember when schools were a lot more open, and we could visit old teachers or walk the halls freely without needing to jump through hoops. sad how things have changed so drastically, but with the risks these days, I guess it's become necessary. it really highlights how far things have changed.
Our local school district has a shortfall of around $80 million in the 2024-25 budget (the Texas Legislature didn't prioritize funding public schools while wasting $4 billion and counting on Operation Lone Star). Every year, there are new security measures, including major innovations completed for the 2024-25 school year. They had to cut back elsewhere, including bus transportation (most students lost bus transportation at our local schools) and staffing reductions. This is also a fact of life — schools have to prioritize security funding that could have been used elsewhere, while at the same time, the TX gov is prioritizing political projects costing billions over public education.
Once in a blue moon vs. it's so regular that everyone has to do shooting drills a few times each year. This is the jinx of it — saying it's a fact of life is giving up on even attempting to reduce school shootings. It doesn't have to be this way.
And the state has a 32.7 billion dollar surplus. Abbott is trying to destroy public schools so he can get school choice passed
It's really not. My wife used to work for a state Senator back in the day. When you call your Congressman or your Senator's office, you'll get a live person answering the phones. You state why you are calling, and what message you want to send. They'll ask for your name, and zip code. They'll look at your voting history. If I call Ted Cruz with my voting history, that phone bank worker will toss it aside or log it in a file of "who gives a sh$t." But if you with your voting history, and maybe a couple hundred more people like you call in with a message like "I support X bill" it'll DEFINITELY get up to someone like Ted Cruz's senior staff, and influence their positions. It's not a long list of demands. Its a very very small amount of your time if you really do truly care about children's lives. There is something YOU can do that I cannot because you are a Republican with a Republican voting history. You might want to let yourself off the hook for actually doing anything here, but if you really do care... then you shouldn't let yourself off the hook for sitting on your a$$ while children continue to be slaughtered in classrooms while you just troll on the internet.
We could turn every school into a jail-like fortress to ensure safety. While we're not fully implementing that approach, it's essentially the direction we're heading. This solution is extremely expensive— both the costs of security measures and, even more critically, the impact on students' freedom to grow up in a restrictive and unsafe environment.
I am absolutely disgusted with JD Vance. This mentality is what's wrong with most Republicans and those fighting against changes in gun laws. The ten countries with the most school shootings from 2008-2018 1. The United States of America – 288 2. Mexico – 8 3. South Africa – 6 4. India – 5 5. Nigeria – 4 6. Pakistan – 4 7. Afghanistan – 3 8. Brazil – 2 9. Canada – 2 10. France – 2 US School Shootings since pandemic 134 in the past 4 years 2021 - 35 2022 - 46 2023 - 38 2024 - 20 That is disgusting. Our children deserve more. This country is not doing enough. We need stricter gun laws. We need better background checks and red flag laws. We need to eliminate loophole laws for private gun sales, gun shows, and such. We should require licensing, registration, and mandatory safety classes. We should require guns to be locked up when children are in a home. We should ban AR-15 type weapons and high capacity magazines. Doing all that can make a difference.
You're a liar. https://www.cnn.com/2024/09/06/politics/jd-vance-school-shootings-security/index.html “I don’t like this. I don’t like to admit this. I don’t like that this is a fact of life. But if you’re, if you are a psycho and you want to make headlines, you realize that our schools are soft targets, and we have got to bolster security at our schools,” Vance said at a campaign event in Phoenix in response to a question from CNN on what specific policies he supports to end school shootings. He said it clear as day. DD
Again, you have no ability to comprehend english ( why should i even bother trying to explain it to you) Go read it again. Real slow DD. You can do this. Try reading what he says right after, where he explains what is a fact of life. You got this. Take a deep breath and read slow. You got duped and whats worse is your emotions dont let you even realize you got duped
Sorry man, you are sucking his crank, he said what he said, you don't like it....he tried to explain it away, and he politicized it by saying he wants more security in schools when the answer is clearly gun reform. But hey, you go on supporting that rapist, conman, convicted felon mother ****er.......keep on showing you lack any integrity......and stop trying to lie to people it isn't a good look for you. Idiotic MAGAts......failed education system...thanks GOP for the dumbing own of America. DD
I totally see where you’re coming from because school safety and responsible gun ownership are crucial. much of what you mentioned, like background checks, red flag laws, and checks for gun shows or private sales, are already in place in many states. There are also child prevention laws requiring guns to be locked up around kids. Perhaps all that should become federal. Licensing, registration, and mandatory safety/education classes would definitely promote responsible ownership can make the biggest difference.
You're right. The genie is already out of the bottle. There are 400 million guns out there. The issue is what can we do now? The steps you have listed are very good.
No - this country needs a cultural modification where leaders and people come together and are honest on topics like gun control, school shootings, border reform, the power that corporations have and how children are being raised - instead of arguing about whether someone is a bigot for using the wrong pronoun or whether a man chooses to dress like a woman.
