This is what I meant about culture needs to change. That so many people think that giving children firearms is a good idea. It’s one thing to take your kid hunting and target shooting but giving your child, who you already know has been talking about shooting up a school, a firearm is incredibly irresponsible.
He literally says...I hate it, but it is a fact of life, watch the video....it is right in there.....he thinks these shootings by nutjobs are facts of life....and they aren't you can fix it with reasonable "WELL REGULATED" gun controls. Video doesn't lie. And your voting for a ****ing rapist, so piss off. DD
No. I can just comprehend english. The reason every journalist is having to retract this statement is because its not what he said. Do you notice that both kamalas tweet and you have to add words that he didnt say ?
You can't occupy a town with F-35s. You can't go house to house searching for insurgents with Reaper drones. The US military has difficulty putting down insurgencies that aren't made up of their neighbors and family members. Yes, there is a very small chance that your child or grandchild will be killed. School shootings are tragic, but they are not likely to result in anyone you are related to being killed. Around 8 school children per year are killed in school shootings on average since 1999. That's out of 73.8 million students in the current year (a bit fewer when the population was a bit smaller), or a 0.000011% chance in a given year (per kid). That's between 4 and 5 times more likely than winning the Powerball with a single ticket. You are about 8 times as likely to be struck by lightning in a given year than to lose a particular child to a school shooting.
The gun nuts are a weird part of society I will never truly wrap my head around, right there with child beauty pageants. I own a gun, one handgun for home defense. This desire for collections, and photo ops, and birthday gifts for children, WTF is wrong with people. They parade around instruments for killing like they're clothes. Then they have the audacity to do this thoughts and prayers BS when something like this happens. Nothing will happen as usual because the gun nuts are absurdly passionate about their need for small arsenals.
Some folks has to b pretending to b stupid and denial. Jd vance legit just said school shooting are just fact of life as he goes around doing speeches behind bullet proof glass Its not fake news it actually happened. A politician is less likely to be assassinated due to gun violence but he has fking more protection than students when it comes to school shootings
I’m sure that’s a lot of comfort to the families of those whose children were killed. We’ve discussed this before but just because something is rare doesn’t mean we don’t address it. As noted before deaths by plane crashes are very rare. It doesn’t mean we don’t address airplane safety. For example no one simply excuses Boeing for problems with safety by noting that it is very unlikely to die in a plane crash.
It’s a cultural problem. It’s also a problem of responsibility. I agree that the Constitution does make firearm ownership a right but rights are not divorced from responsibility. Getting your child who has already been talking about shooting up a school is irresponsible and is an abuse of the right. Every firearm owner who considers themselves responsible should be be calling for heavier punishment on those who are irresponsible.
I disagree with Vance (and most Americans) on gun control, but: He actually didn't say "they are JUST a fact of life", as in "deal with it". Nuance matters. The way he said it was "(sadly), they are a fact of life". That's just a correct statement of fact. They are. He then went on to say that unfortunately, security at school needs to be bolstered, because they are a soft target. Any intellectually honest person will see the difference between how you leftists are portraying his statement ("hey they are a fact of life, deal with it") vs. what he actually said ("they are unfortunately and sadly a fact of life, and the best way to deal with it is to bolster school security, because psychos will otherwise use schools as soft targets"). These are obviously two very different statements. They way you and people like DD are portraying it is to vilify him as if he doesn't care. What he actually expressed is that he does care, but he thinks no matter what gun control measures one takes, psychos would still be able to get their hands on guns and be able to attack schools.
Shootings at schools don't have to be a fact of life. The reality is that they aren't a fact of life anywhere else.
That goes to that plane crashes and car crashes are a fact of life. We still have a lot of regulation on cars and planes. While those aren’t rights no one is talking about banning driving or flying but it is understood that those actions are very conditioned on responsible behavior and requirements of technical safety.
By saying they are a fact of life, he doesn't say nothing should be done about it. He is just (sadly correctly) describing the status quo. He says beefing up security at schools is more effective at preventing school shootings than confiscating guns of law-abiding citizens. While I personally would prefer that all guns could just be confiscated, that doesn't seem a realistic option in the US - not even for most Democrats. (Also, then you would actually have a really bad ratio of "bad guys with guns" (because you wouldn't get to confiscate them) vs. "good guys with guns"). I think we all agree it is a horrible problem. My personal opinion, given the realities of the 2nd amendment and Americans' general unwillingness to give up their guns, etc., is that at the very least, there should be extremely strict background checks when it comes to guns. I do realize that that is not a Republican position. And also, strong security measures at schools will unfortunately continue to be needed, in my opinion (so I agree on that part with Vance).
They are, but to a much lesser degree. It's simply much harder to get guns in other civilized Western countries.
As I’ve said before architects are working on this and I’ve worked on school projects where we are considering measures to address the school shootings. These measures aren’t cheap and in many cases go against the other needs of a school as a place of learning. So yes what Vance is calling for is happening the issue though is that much more can be done from the legal and regulatory aide regarding who can own firearms. Mass confiscation of firearms can’t work Constitutionally or practically but stronger red flag laws, laws against straw purchases, and laws regarding safe storage of firearms can. Most of all though this needs to be a cultural change. The celebration and fetishizing of firearms should end.
I agree with everything in this post. Well said. And kudos to the architects working on this. Plus, mental health...also obviously a problem. The mix of mental health issues and ubiquity of guns is a powder keg. I am unclear on how much these first-person shooter games and social media contribute, to, but I suspect they do (lowering the natural inhibition by "practicing", and chasing 5 minutes of fame, even if it's the last thing).
He is wrong. There were multiple officers at the school. All the teachers had devices on their badges to push for help. Now those things may have reduced the number of those killed and wounded, but having armed officers and an alert system did not stop it from happening.
