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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. rocketsjudoka

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    That doesn’t counter that the US did do such things like kidnap, detain and torture on the order of the President. Such things did happen and no President has been held to account on such things. Even though the Korematsu decision has been repudiated it has never been held that FDR or his administration had acted illegally and Scalia himself said such actions could be possible again in wartime. Also as state John Yoo continues to argue that the President has almost unlimited power and recent USSC decisions appear to support that.

    Your incredulity is understandable and it would seem to defy common sense but I never thought that the USSC would definitively ruled for broad based Presidential immunity. Nor did many constitutional scholars including very conservative ones. Yet the court did. Not only did they do that they didn’t really define what were official acts. As Barrett even noted in her concurrent opinion that a president could legally accept bribes under Roberts’ opinion.

    This ruling has made it unclear where or what the limits are of a President.
     
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  2. No Worries

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  3. rocketsjudoka

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    You might not GF about the influencers but given how you repeat their rhetoric even in the above shows that you are influenced.
     
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  4. No Worries

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    It is like the SCOTUS did partisan back flips to support Trump's illegal behavior. Just like.

    And one could extrapolate that the SCOTUS has it in them to do more partisan back flips and contradict themselves, if Harris wins and Biden misbehaves between now and the end of his term.
     
  5. No Worries

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    Fixed it for you.

    America first in everything? You really think that "Make America Great Again" is more than a political slogan?

    Convicted Felon Trump's real slogan is "Trump first in everything". If you disagree with this, you might not be paying attention.

    As an aside, the second term of Trump (if it ever happens) will likely be a nothing burger. Trump will completely check out and play golf 5 days a week at one of his resorts and do the absolute minimum required as POTUS. Thus, Trump would likely only speechify twice a week about how he has single handed save the US and the World. And god help us if we have a crisis and need strong leadership.
     
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  6. JHarden713

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    Where was Biden at, asleep?
     
  7. No Worries

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    Parker Molloy of The New Republic

    This “sanewashing” of Trump’s statements isn’t just poor journalism; it’s a form of misinformation that poses a threat to democracy. By continually reframing Trump’s incoherent and often dangerous rhetoric as conventional political discourse, major news outlets are failing in their duty to inform the public and are instead providing cover for increasingly erratic behavior from a former—and potentially future—president.

    The consequences of this journalistic malpractice extend far beyond misleading headlines. By laundering Trump’s words in this fashion, the media is actively participating in the erosion of our shared reality. When major news outlets consistently present a polished version of Trump’s statements, they create an alternate narrative that exists alongside the unfiltered truth available on social media and in unedited footage.

    Voters who rely solely on traditional news sources are presented with a version of Trump that bears little resemblance to reality. They see a former president who, while controversial, appears to operate within the bounds of normal political discourse—or at worst, is breaking with it in some kind of refreshing manner. You can see this folie à deux at work in a recent Times piece occasioned by Trump’s amplification of social media posts alleging that Harris owed her career to the provision of “blowjobs”: “Though he has a history of making crass insults about his opponents, the reposts signal Mr. Trump’s willingness to continue to shatter longstanding norms of political speech.” Meanwhile, those who seek out primary sources encounter a starkly different figure—one prone to conspiracy theories, personal attacks, and extreme rhetoric.
     
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    So Putin supports a candidate that supports arming Ukraine to fight Russia and also is in favor of Ukraine joining NATO as opposed to a candidate that would stop funding to Ukraine, would not support Ukraine joining NATO, and in fact would harm relationships with NATO.

    You don't need the media to help you use your brain to think critically. Get help.
     
  10. deb4rockets

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    Yeah, it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know who Trump loves and will help for bribes. Putin, Kim Jong Un, and Orban, Putin's biggest puppet. In fact, Putin has Orban and Trump dangling from his little puppet strings. Those Dictators and Authoritarian types would love nothing more than a corrupt money and power hungry racist and anti-LGBQT American President as their ally. That goes double for a man who can be easily manipulated by attention, praise, and money. Ask Musk how easily money and praise got Trump to change his EV stance. Oh, and then there's Tick Tok. LOL, Trump is so transparent.
     
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    You should tell that to Putin, he said it.
     
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    So now you believe Putin...
     
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    The real question is do y'all believe him? Because democrats thought the Russians interfered with the elections in '16. So I'm being a democrat rn :)
     
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    At this point anyone voting for Trump is a certifiable idiot.

    DD
     
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  15. No Worries

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    Should we believe what Putin says or should we believe what the Russian Intelligence Agencies are doing?

    It is a real conundrum.
     
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    I don't give validity to his claim when the candidate he supposedly supports is acting against Russia's interest. Once again, just using my brain, not reading whatever garbage you guys read.
     
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    Maybe its in their interest for the war to continue, to gain more territory n maybe attack someone else, who knows
     
  20. ElPigto

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    So he ignores the fact that Kamala supports Ukraine joining NATO and that the relationship with NATO/US will continue to be strong if she were to win? He really does hate NATO, so I'm not really understanding the logic.

    The war can continue regardless if the US arms Ukraine or not. It hasn't stopped Russia from gaining territory this whole time. The problem is that it has slowed down Russia from actually overtaken Ukraine and now the war is also on their turf.

    So once again, why the hell would you believe Putin lol?
     

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