Israel recovers bodies of six hostages held by Hamas, including American citizen

Trying to move on after all that bluster is your wisest choice.

 

You did, after some frantic googling, find a random article where an unnamed Hamas operative is cited as saying "yeah we would do a ceasefire if they withdraw fully". Applause for that.

Again, this means nothing. We don't even get the name of whoever that supposedly was.

They are murderers and liars. They are still holding close to 100 hostages. They just murdered 6 of them, in cold blood. They are losing the war they started, badly.

And then you fools want to take some anonymous statement by some anonymous terrorist that "yeah, we will do a ceasefire" as some kind of justification to lay blame on the Israeli side?

Morally reprehensive.

 

We don't want to take anything from anyone. I answered your question. I didn't claim I beleived anything. Both sides are notoriously untrustworthy.

What I would rather do is take a look at the actual actions proposals, consequences, options, and put those as a priority over yet another example of you trying to make negative stereotypes based on connecting dots that have no logical connections.

Most of us aren't interested in that, but that's all you're interested in.

 

This is not a "both sides" thing. Israel is not untrustworthy.

One side - Hamas - took hostages, and just murdered six of them.

 

Lol

 

Par for the course for you to side with Hamas.

 

Woke people love Hamas
And crime
And Jeremy Lin

 

No I didn't. Another false accusation. No wonder respected posters keep putting you on ignore.

Both sides can be and are untrustworthy.

 

Hamas doesn’t have an army like Russia or whomever to invade Israel. Israel should now be much better at protecting themselves from a terrorist attack.

Yes some rockets will get shot into Israel like they always do but that’s been going on for decades.

If they can get the hostages back then they are done. There’s no need to do anything more than fortify your borders as well as possible and hopefully in the future Netanyahu will be out of power and they can finally establish a 2 state solution.

It’s not a tough call here man. You do a cease fire in exchange for the hostages, fortify your borders, and only use special forces for military operations. Occupying Gaza long term is stupid and only serves Netanyahu’s short term ambition to stay in power to avoid going to jail for corruption.

 

Again I won’t pretend to have easy or any good answers to the situation. It is a fact though that hostages have been killed in rescue missions and hostage rescue missions are some of the most dangerous missions that can be undertaken.

I feel horrible for the families of the hostages and can understand why many are protesting.

 

Douglas Murray has more common sense in his little finger than all the dumbass leftists on this thread - especially old fool @Deckard - combined.

 

Another third day of major protests in Israel against Netanyahu.

 

You leftists CANNOT refute what Douglas Murray is saying in the video clip above. It's just logical, and common sense.

You can try to celebrate the protests of a minority against the elected leader of Israel, because you shamefully side with Hamas, but you cannot factually refute what he is saying.

Hang your heads in shame. You are supporting Nazis if you oppose Israel.

You are the guys who, in April 1945, would have demonstrated against the elected leaders of the US and the UK, demanding a "ceasefire" with Hitler.

 

No one here is siding with Hamas. Well maybe maypk.

 

And Exiled and trustme.

They are full-on crazy Islamists.

But as to the leftists - by directing all the blame and hate onto the elected leader of Israel, those who do that are supporting Hamas, whether they want to admit it to themselves or not.

Please do me a favour and watch the brief clip with Douglas Murray. If you can factually refute anything he says, please try.

Hamas could return the hostages right now, and there would be a ceasefire.

HAMAS DOES NOT WANT PEACE.

 

A touch melodramatic.

Sure, everyone supports Hamas and Nazis

or

They have different ideas on the best ways to get the hostages back and deal with Hamas.

Differing opinions doesn't mean supporting Hamas.

 

There are degrees of "supporting Hamas". Crazies like maypk, trustme, Exiled support Hamas because they are crazy Islamists and Jew haters. Sadly, they have been brainwashed with that ideology.

I am not accusing you leftists of being primarily driven by hating Jews. But in your weird woke hierarchy of victimhood, Jews are perpetrators, not victims, mostly, whereas you have bought into the false narrative of Palestinians/Muslims being victims, when they started a war, murdered 1,000+ innocent civilians and took hundreds as hostages. Whatever motivates it, your hate for a right-wing Jew like Netanyahu is greater than your rejection of Hamas. This thread is an example of that.

Six innocent Jewish hostages get murdered by Hamas.

One old senile leftist directs ALL his hate and outrage towards Netanyahu - and the entire NPC crew of leftists on this forum likes his posts. Not a single word of condemnation of Hamas who actually murdered them.

It's shameful.

Can you please do me a favour and watch the Douglas Murray clip and if you can refute what he says, I would like to hear it. Thanks.

P.S.: I remember well that you, @FranchiseBlade, genuinely expressed your feelings against Hamas when October 7th happened, and that you said they must be eradicated. Thank you for that. Unfortunately, you have not been steadfast in your resolve against Hamas.

 

Technically, they murdered 100s of innocent civilians and 100s of soldiers on military bases (nearly 3:1 civilian). There also wouldn't be an immediate ceasefire if all the hostages were released (nor should there be, Hamas should be completely annihilated). Other than that, spot on.