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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Sajan, Jul 21, 2024.

  1. rockbox

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    4 years of Biden-Harris will definitely change those numbers. I can see why you didn’t mention the other two groups I brought up because they tell a different story:

    In 2016, Trump got 28% of the Hispanic vote and 27% of the Asian vote. In 2020, those numbers increased to 38% of the Hispanic vote and 34% of the Asian vote. So while his share of the Black vote dipped, his support among these other key minority groups actually grew. And he is currently polling better with Blacks now than in 2020.

    In addition to that, you aren't taking into account geography when it comes to the new voter registrations, but even more important, Kamala is not making waves with Gen Z like Obama did with a similar group of young people when he first ran. Gen Z has the highest amount of independent voters of any recent generation. Stories are coming out on this now, such as this one from yesterday:

    Kamala's Gen Z Problem

    And keep in mind these polls were taken at the height of the honeymoon period right before the convention. Kamala is polling far below Biden in 2020 at this point in time.
     
  4. Rocket River

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    Honestly.
    I am beyond debating polls
    or every predicting the outcome

    I am at the point of trying to figure out
    what their presidencies will look.

    If Trump wins . .. expect ______________
    If Harris wins . . . expect ______________

    These are really the only debates left for me

    Rocket River
     
  5. mtbrays

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    All I want is for the mass deportation crowd to acknowledge that they're fine with the impact this would have on prices and tax revenue. It's estimated that ~25% of the agricultural and restaurant industries are staffed by illegal immigrants. Removing this population from the workforce and replacing them with Americans who have high demands on salary and benefits would have a dramatic inflationary effect on food prices. The same goes for the hospitality and construction industries.

    If you hate their presence here so much just be truthful and say that you're willing to shoulder the short- and long-term costs of deporting them. But it's telling that labor is the focal point of their anger instead of the management who hires them or the culture that prizes cheap goods above all else.

    It honestly all feels very Brexit.
     
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    That level of deportations also would result in need for concentration camp style facilities. It would be horrendous.
     
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    I would be interested in your take on this?
     
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    My wife being British and all, I was very much anti-Brexit.

    But looking at the dystopian things the bureaucratic monster EU does, and looking how the EU is trying to force all its members into self-destruction by expanding uncontrolled illegal invasion of ideologically fanatical, uneducated, dangerous people, I can totally understand the sentiment why they voted for Brexit.

    However, as we can see now, the UK doesn't need the EU to pursue the exact same idiotic policies all by themselves.

    All it takes is having their own leftist government.

    (To be fair, the previous "conservative" government in Britain failed miserably as well.)
     
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    She is not the leader.
     
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    I really hope Harris can end this known and widely used legal loop hole to basically live tax free by the actual wealthy (net worth 100 million+). One of my friends works for a company that structures these deals and he reminds me that it is all by the books.


    ‘Invest, borrow against it, and die’: Scott Galloway explains how the rich avoid long-term capital gains taxes


    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/invest-borrow-against-die-scott-114400643.html
     
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    You do realize the Conservatives have been in power the last 14 years right? That changed less than 2 months ago
     
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    This is what pissed me off about politicians, a bipartisan border bill is what we all want, a policy that closes loopholes, invests in technology and is humane. Each party had a chance to fix it and didn't, albeit we had the chance this year, but trump didn't want it.......why, so he could play politics at the expense of American Public. That is no bueno for me...................I will also say Joe should have done the EO earlier, IMO he waited too long, but he eventually pulled the trigger and the influx has dropped by 50%

    As far as trump wanting to round up millions IMO is a pipe dream and would be a burden to many industries who rely on cheap labor and jobs that no one else wants to do or can afford to do
     
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    What makes you say that?
     
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    Honestly I think if Trump wins - he will do alot of hurtful petty stuff
    I think he will spend too much time punishing people that he feels "dissed him"
    I legit think he will act like a dictator . .. not much different that Kim Jung
    As for the actual country . .. . some exteme right wing things will be implemented
    I can see a distinct turn back to the 1950s where nepotism tribalism and racism ensue that one group
    dominated in business etc. . . .
    Don't expect TRUE History but white nationalist propaganda in education

    Harris will probably be in the middle of most things . . unwilling or unable to make decisive choices
    esp if they are "unpopular" I expect she will have to pay for alot of favors
    The general mood of the country will be more Meh than dread . .
    Probably more accepting of minorities and "diversity"
    Mean more True history and more opportunities for minorities. . .
    well more in the sense of percentages.

    Rocket River
     
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    That's just it...

    With Trump as you stated above we can pretty much guess what you're going to get..

    With Harris we really don't know.. if you were to ask 10 people that ques you would get 10 different answers.

    T_Man
     
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    I am thinking Trump will bring us back to 2019. Kamala will be similar to 2023. I understand people could be bigger fans of both of those years and will vote accordingly. Trump didn't do any of those things during his original term while Biden/Harris could arguably be accused of punishing folks who dissed them. I don't think either administration will be much different than their original terms.
     
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    As I said, they failed miserably, and deserved to be voted out of power.

    However, the full-on assault on free speech started after Labour took over.
     
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    Lmao, bruh you hilarious.... You should write parodies for The Babylon Bee of what woke people say...

    He will go after people he feels "dissed" him.... I'm sure Trump takes getting politically persecuted and defamed every single day by the radical left leaning mainstream media as a diss, bruh they went after his money, his family, tried to put him in jail, accused of him everything possible and made his life hell for years and you think he "feels" dissed... Diss is like when Trump calls Kamala Komrade Harris or Tim Tampon Tim.... Those are disses, what Democrats have done to Trump is try to throw him in prison for the rest of his life in an attempt to win an election.

    Everything you are afraid of Trump doing is what this current government has done and you are worried about retribution.. If only Biden and Kamala spent half the time they spent talking $hit about Trump running the country they would have probably gotten something done and a reelection would have been automatic and easy.... Instead they literally *cked everything they could possibly get ahold of and are now desperate because Trump might just go after the people who wronged him... Which he will....

    The swamp will be drained and the country will be saved from aholes like Biden and Kamala...
     

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