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[Official] Kamala Harris for President 2024

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  1. Xopher

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    Am I supposed to belive the link or a Xeet ATW posts which has zero backing information? Decisions decisions
     
  2. FranchiseBlade

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    Trust or don't trust. But as Musk said, you need new homes, and her plan has that.

    Do you trust her opponent?
     
  3. Ubiquitin

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    If the election were held today this is what I would expect the electoral college votes to look like.

    BUT

    Two months is a lifetime in the news spin cycle and presidential elections. And it will likely tighten and it will be a coin flip election. It is in effect the electorate voting against generic democrat or generic republican, and it being Trump or Harris at the top of the ticket matters a lot less than we think. Both candidates will get 46% and it's the 2-3% that'll decide the election, more-so in the handful of swing states. Harris will likely need to win 3% of the popular vote to win the election because of the disproportionate weight of the electoral votes to the under-populated states that vote republican. A vote in California is not worth the same as a vote in the Dakotas for President of the United States.



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    Not a whole lot, but more than her (on the policies).
     
  5. Xopher

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    You post an article that is almost a year old to prove your point? Good job!
     
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  6. FranchiseBlade

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    I haven't read the details, but I do know at the convention they spoke about stripping some of the regulations around the building of homes.
     
  7. rocketsjudoka

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    The date of the article you linked is 12/05/2023 the law had been passed about a year prior. It takes time to implement and infrastructure can’t be built overnight.

    I know for a fact though that projects are being funded now and built from that law. Even Republicans are campaigning on projects funded by the various infrastructure acts even if they didn’t vote for it.
     
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    Ah, and here is an article from July 29, 2024 on another huge promise Kamala made.

    Judge them by their actions, and how they delivered on promises.

    Kamala's record is abysmal.

    Lots of promises, based on spending taxpayer money, and nothing delivered - whether it's the border, charging stations, school buses.

    Shameful.

    I'm sure that that's partly because she is a career bureaucrat who never worked in a private industry job where she couldn't just throw taxpayer money around.

    https://freebeacon.com/biden-admini...three-years-later-its-produced-just-60-buses/

    Kamala Harris Touted a $5B Electric School Bus Program. Three Years Later, It's Produced Just 60 Buses.
    California superintendent says electric buses would take district back to 'Pony Express days'

    July 29, 2024
    One of Kamala Harris's highest profile responsibilities as vice president has been spearheading the federal government's billion-dollar efforts to deploy thousands of electric buses across hundreds of school districts nationwide. But years into the program, only a small fraction of those projects have been completed while dozens of school districts have withdrawn from the program altogether.

    As part of the first tranche of Clean School Bus program funding two years ago, Harris and EPA administrator Michael Regan unleashed nearly $1 billion in federal rebates for 389 school districts across all 50 states to help deliver a total 2,463 electric school buses. According to federal data reviewed by the Washington Free Beacon, just 27 of those districts have proven to the EPA that their buses were delivered and that their diesel-fueled buses being replaced have been discarded.

    Collectively, those districts have deployed a total of 60 battery-electric or low-emissions propane-fueled school buses. And 55 additional districts have pulled out of the program, according to other federal data shared with the Free Beacon, citing a variety of technological and infrastructure concerns. In other words: More school districts have withdrawn from the program than proven that they have completed it.

    "EPA anticipates that transitioning to new technology school buses will take time, which is why the project period is two years with an option to extend where needed and justified," said EPA spokeswoman Shayla Powell.

    Powell didn't deny that 60 school buses have been deployed as part of the program, but she explained that districts still have three months until the EPA's deadline to either file close-out documentation showing they have obtained the buses and scrapped old buses, or file for an extension. The wide time frame is designed to give districts time to test the new buses out and integrate them into their fleet. Powell didn't say how many total buses may have been deployed in districts that have yet to file close-out materials.

    The slow progression of the Clean School Bus program is a blow to the Biden-Harris administration as it seeks to quickly get billions of dollars in green energy and climate funding—earmarked in President Joe Biden's signature 2021 Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act and 2022 Inflation Reduction Act—out the door. It's also a black eye for Harris, who has, in many ways, taken credit for the program, which she characterized earlier this year as an "investment in our children, their health, and their education."

    The Clean School Bus program was created nearly three years ago as a provision of the 2021 infrastructure bill, which put aside $5 billion for the EPA to distribute in the form of rebates and grants over the course of five years. Since Harris's initial announcement, the agency has unveiled a $1 billion tranche of grants for 280 school districts and a second tranche of rebates, worth $900 million, for another 530 districts. None of those districts have deployed any buses under the program.

    "This only makes economic sense if the bus is paid for with a grant like we received," Jeff Dicks, the superintendent of the Newell-Fonda and Albert City-Truesdale school systems in northern Iowa, told the Free Beacon. "The cost is so prohibitive that the cost savings are not worth it."

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    I thought it was state only.
    Federal Nooooo.

    I already pay enough in taxes here in the not-so-great state of NY
     
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    The most grating thing about politicians like Kamala and also Scholz in Germany and other leftists around the world is when they talk about spending taxpayer money as if they are making a personal gift to people. Taxpayers' money is being used for these handouts.

    To be fair, Trump does exactly the same.

    It always irritates me. It's not the politicians' money, but they act like it.
     
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    You can search the articles for all the promises he didn't keep. But I'll just name a few.

    • Mexico will pay for the wall
    • Repeal ACA
    • Replace ACA with a better health plan in two weeks
    • Claimed he'd create 4% economic growth each year.
    • Promised the average American family would receive a $4,000 pay raise because of his tax cuts
    • Promised to eliminate the Federal deficit
    • Promised to reduce the price of prescription drugs
    • Promised an infrastructure bill.
    • He promised 6 weeks of paid maternity leave for mothers.
    Biden and Harris actually did deliver on some of Trump's policies. Trump delivered on none of them.
     
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    That article itself states that funding is there for chargers and that delay is for getting the right kind of charger and safety. From the article:
    “A spokesperson with the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, which administers $5 billion of the $7.5 billion total, further told Motavalli that the delay is because "we want to get it right."

    The article further says that government funding has gone to private business to build chargers:
    “In fairness, both Tesla and Rivian have benefited from government handouts: State and local governments in Georgia promised Rivian a raft of incentives worth up to $1.5 billion. And Tesla has received at least $2.8 billion in federal, state, and local subsidies over the years, despite CEO Elon Musk's professed distaste for government intervention in the economy. In fact, Politico found in February that Tesla was the single largest recipient of funds disbursed by the federal NEVI program, winning "almost 13 percent of all EV charging awards from the law, earning it a total of more than $17 million in infrastructure grants."
     
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    Trump is a life long con man whose loudest supporters are con men. It's cons all the way down.

    It's quintessential American.
     
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    Politicians overpromise and underdeliver. Trump is no exception. But as little as I trust him, I trust the socialists and career bureaucrats Harris and Walz even less.

    As to maternity leave, I think that's one area where Europe is better than the US.
     
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    Well I mean it kind of is a gift. With most costs outpacing earnings by far the last 60-70 years. While income inequality continues to widen. It’s like the bought and paid for politicians and media are throwing some crumbs to the masses.

    Here have a little cheap insulin after you have been ripped off so your child could survive. Democrats are bought and sold but the Republicans are much much worse. Even comparing the online personalities the conservative ones are often financed by billionaires while the left leaning ones are much more often just supported by their followers the general public.
     
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    I know very little about school buses so don’t really have much to respond to this piece.

    I will give credit though for making a substantial
    Criticism based on records and evidences. If Republicans stuck with this rather than petty insults this election might be different.
     
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    The big difference though is that Trump isn’t just over promising and under delivering he’s used government and funds and policies to benefit him and his family personally.

    You might criticize Walz for not owning stocks but that shows that he isn’t out to personally profit from his position.
     
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    Billionaires in the US appear to be split between the two parties.
     
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    Biden/Burisma.
     

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