And this is again why this situation is so difficult to solve. Ancestral grievances are more important than current lives.
This is what I said. It is neither vague, in nebulous terms, nor made in bad faith. It is the stated mission of their founding charter that was created during my lifetime, for God's sake. It is also 100% true. Don't blame me for your reading comprehension failures. Already have. Here's one: How about blaming @maypk 's persistent calls for the extermination of the Jewish people on the Israeli government?
A j*w accusing me of promoting genocide is the funniest **** I've seen in a while. Yes, they bought somewhere between 5%-10% of lands with their money, and then they figured killing and stealing properties of people is more profitable. Conquering, or invading a land and stealing properties of people who used to live there are two different things, but I don't expect you to understand the difference since you are j*w. I'll tell you who the hell was living in Anatolia in 1071. The Byzantine Empire and Romans. And guess what? They were not j*ws. Over the last 50 years, Turkish governments have repeatedly proposed to the Armenian government that a joint historical committee of Turkish, Armenian and independent historians be established, that the archives be opened and the allegations of genocide be investigated, and that compensation be paid if it is concluded that genocide occurred. This proposal has been rejected by Armenian governments for 50 years. And it's also funny how isr*el don't recognize armenian genocide, isn't it? Do you wonder why? This genocide put an end to more than two thousand years of Armenian civilization in eastern Anatolia. Together with the mass murder and expulsion of Assyrian/Syriac and Greek Orthodox Christians, it enabled the creation of an ethnonationalist Turkish state, the Republic of Turkiye. You even go on to say "Greeks claim that Turks are Islamized greeks, Armenians claim that Turks are Islamized armenians, Jews claim that Turks are Islamized jews. Turks never lived under greek, armenian or jewish rule while Greeks, Armenians and Jews have lived more than 500 years under Turkish rule." "The Ottoman Empire became a safe haven for Jews fleeing persecution in the Iberian Peninsula. When Spain kicked out Jews, in 1500′s Ottoman Turks received around 100.000 Jews who settled from Izmir to Istanbul and elsewhere throughout Turkiye." -right1, few days ago. Please decide if it has been a safe haven for j*ws or they were subject to rape and assimilation. Because you just proved yet again, how accurate this image is. And by the way, I absolutely love how you just completely ignored everything written on the original post you've quoted as they have never happened. Very j*wish.
How does this maypk clown have anything to do with me? Is America inherently evil because I served with dudes who waxed lyrical about glassing the middle east? You'd be surprised with how many Americans are comfortable with genocidal rhetoric as long as it involves migrants and Muslims.
Wanna know how I know you've never met a Jew? You are getting offended at a Jew making fun of a dude in this very thread constantly calling for the literal extermination of the Jewish people. As to your absolute non-answer of my question, I would feel like you don't know the definition of genocide. Will you answer my question for the 4th time?
Jewish people and the state of Israel are absolutely not one and the same. But there's no such thing as innocent israeli citizen. They all had their homes all around the world, and yet they've decided to steal someone else's.
Genocide usually is a after effect of a deliberate ethnic cleansing campaign. Usually the culprit government's goal isn't to eradicate the population, but rather make the conditions on the ground so miserable that the hope is the population gives up and moves voluntarily. But in most cases this doesn't happen and eventually leads to things like basic life supporting infrastructure being eradicated causing things like mass dysentery, disease, famine etc. This is the current stage in Gaza. Genocide in most cases isn't usually the intention when genocide happens. In most genocides the initial intent was an ethnic cleansing.
Millions of Israelis were born and raised in Israel and know of no other home. They have no connection with any other country. They were eborm and raised in Israel. It would be against the basic core value of human rights to force them to be displaced. It is a moral principle to not place the sins of the father at the feet of their children. This is also why it would be immoral today if a Native American tribe forced out white families in a Massachusetts suburb.
Yes there is active resettlement of Palestinian lands today as we speak primarily in the West Bank. A kid born and raised in Tel Aviv isn't at fault for that.
Good grief, you are incorrigible. I have told you 3 times that I am not a Jew. I do love me some Jews, though, as well as some Turks, Arabs & Persians. As for the rest of your blabber, I will try to respond after I take my twins out to play and eat dinner. But, honestly, you can't comprehend that just because the Ottoman Empire was a safe haven for Jews for a while in the 1500's, doesn't mean that there were not other tumultuous times in Turkish history (see above) when they, along with Armenians, Assyrians & Greeks, were subjected to massacres, rape, conversions and assimilation? Also, there were plenty of Jews in Byzantia when the Turks arrived. Also, much, much higher than 5-10% of the land was purchased from the "dumbass Arabs" as you call them. Also, what? "Conquering, or invading a land and stealing properties of people who used to live there are two different things, but I don't expect you to understand the difference since you are j*w."
A kid born and raised in Tel Aviv serves in IDF and helps israeli invaders steal more homes. So yeah. They are at fault for that.
The IDF has many conscripts where the threat of imprisonment is deployed if you don't join. Are there many IDF soldiers who relish in Palestinian destruction, absolutely. But the mere fact a Jewish person was born and raised in Tel Aviv gives me no moral clarity on whether that individual is bad or good and they have the basic human rights to not be displaced from their home they were born and raised in.
No, I think it was a misunderstanding. We've exchanged couple of posts, n then you've said something along the lines "cut me me some slack being a subhuman" or something, which I took as if you were trying to say that I'm treating you as such. Which wasn't the case nor would it ever be. You being Jewish has nothing to do with it, just my principal. I don't care what other people post, I'm only responsible for myself. I think I've answered your question, my original statement was that criticizing Israeli government makes most of y'all feel some type of way. Now if I say Benjamin is a scumbag, you'll have no problem with it, but if I say that the Israeli government is committing genocide, thats where the "twist" happens, because now it becomes about Jewish people not just the government, but its not. Just my 2 cents/observation.
I recommend that you learn what chronology is. It can be useful when interpreting historical events. Maybe then you can learn if ethnonationalist Greeks/Armenians were emerged first or ethnonationalist Turks. Or maybe you can learn if Greeks killed more than 30,000 Turks and Jews in Tripoli in 1821 before that socalled "Greek genocide".
Are you aware that you keep ignoring the half of the sentence about you that you keep asking me to repeat? Calling maypk's calls for the extermination of the Jews Israeli propaganda is ****ed up beyond belief. You just can't stop telling me what I'd say and think, can you? Of course I wouldn't be surprised, and you'd know that if you placed that judgment on what I actually wrote instead of what you want me to write that verifies your narrative. Would you like to actually know what I would never write? I would never write that those Americans are really just migrant and Muslim agents in disguise spreading propaganda to make Americans look bad. See above.
