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[Official] Astros @ Phillies

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 26, 2024.

  1. Houstunna

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    Astros are already ahead..... by multiple games.

    Understand what you're saying.
     
  2. Tomstro

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    This is including his errors and everything else. I want to know how many of those 6 runs are due to his lack of range.
     
  3. bloodwings19

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    Trying to get Blanco a win is a losing way to manage.

    1st playoff series

    Verlander
    Framber
    Yousay
    Hunter
    Verlander
     
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  4. Htown Stros

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    Well 3.5 games it is. Dumbass 3B Caballero makes a little league type error with 2 outs no one on, Raleigh with a swinging bunt that rolled down the 3B line and hit the corner of the bag, and then a 3 run home from Arozarena. Rays sorry ass lineup isn't scoring 5 runs.
     
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  5. Nick

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    Based on the metrics, his negative range is accounting for all of that value… which makes sense as 1B’s can’t really make up for anything with their arm.

    On the flip side, Myers has a negative arm factor… but his range is so tremendous that it still has him amongst the leage leaders for his position in whatever metric you want to use that applies to fielding (OAA, DRS, FRV… they all correlate).
     
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    Isn't technically the 1st series a best of 3. Unless by miracle they catch NY/Baltimore or Cleveland for a bye. So based on your rotation. If they advance to the divisional series. Game 1 starter could be Kikuchi or Brown.

    But in opening series. If they win the 1st game. Do you stick with Valdez and go for the sweep in game 2. Or save Valdez. Try to sweep with Kikuchi or whoever. If they lose. Then go with Valdez for game 3. If they win. They can use Valdez for game 1 in the divisional series.
     
  7. tehG l i d e

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    Mariners up 4-1 on the Rays. They've got some juice since Servais was fired.
     
  8. Nick

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    Maybe… but the bullpen was still heavily used regardless, and now Abreu/Hader not likely available tomorrow based on pitching last two days (and Hader going 2 innings today).

    Verlander probably not going to go 7+ innings either. Phillies aren’t the best matchup for him even when he’s not coming off a 2 month hiatus.

    Scoring 2 runs is probably not going to beat a lot of teams, let alone a better offense such as their opponents. Blanco held his own. He’s a great 6th starter.
     
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  9. BMoney

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    They will.
     
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  10. Tomstro

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    I don’t think that’s right that his range has cost all 6 runs. Runs above average also factors in errors. But even if it is right , thats about a run every 15 games or so more than the average 1st baseman. So, over a 150 games (if jon played that many at 1B) his range would cost us about 10 runs total. While that isn’t great, it certainly isn’t a “ton of balls” getting by him vs the average 1st baseman, which was my original point.

    Like I said though, errors are part of this equation I’m sure so the number is probably more like 5 runs over 150 games.
     
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  11. El_Conquistador

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    Caratini looked awful defensively tonight at first base -- as in unplayable. I can't believe we did not address 1B at the trade deadline. Honestly, Yuli would fit nicely in there right now compared to our options.
     
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  12. Nick

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    Well, most 1B wouldn’t be getting 650+ innings there (which he’s gotten), with this sort of defense, unless their bats were justifying it. Also it’s “outs above average” not runs. Errors actually don’t impact these running/counting/cumulative meta-metrics as much (or they can basically exclude them much like FIP excludes team defense).

    And hence back to the original point of why the front office will experiment with guys who haven’t played much at all there. They’re not likely to lose ‘more’ defensive value, and they’ll take whatever more they can possibly get at the plate.
     
  13. Castian Crew

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    I feel like this organization is like a 1000 piece puzzle. We have the pieces for a great picture but every time we find one to put down we end up misplacing another.

    Only thing is, can we put this all together before grandma comes home to see it? Or will she be disappointed wondering what we did all day.
     
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    I get there are things you’d learn about over time as a rookie manager but there are some things that are common sense just by reading this thread. Once your starting pitcher is getting figured out and the other team his hitting hard hits, you have to instinctively get somebody warming up in the bullpen especially in a one run game. Yes, the Astros offense needs to score more runs, but our manager has certainly contributed to these losses and if he’s not able to see the obvious trends, then he’s not the future manager of this team.
     
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    It’s crazy. Either he’s naive in trusting these guys to somehow turn it around, or he can’t see the obvious signs. Either way it’s a problem
     
  16. MadMax

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    Got an email today with an offer to buy MLBTV for $22 for the rest of the season. I bought it thinking I could catch Mariners games down the stretch. So far it’s the worst $22 I ever spent. I would like to speak to the manager.
     
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  17. Pinchpincher

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    Well we are fkd pitching wise atleast the next game. If Verlander could fight through 5ish innings game being still in reach where do you go then. Using Hader non save and multiple innings smells like early season panic again when Joe was trying to save his job. Wasting a good mojo gathered by Hader also with hitting that save record and being on fire for while b4 this. Don't wanna give unnecessary looks of our boogieman closer at start of series. He should be the reason to fear and be nervous about giving lead late to us. Now Phillies might feel more "we can beat any pitcher there". Wheeler pitched so had this down as L against tired Blanco, can't believe we actually also managed to burn these pitchers and lose.

    Looking at M's game score now race might get tight. Those Rays are so frustrating to watch. They might beat Dodgers scoring ten but most of the time they look like 9 guys swinging eyes closed Siri like 120% with no purpose or trying ever do situational hitting. And just fooling around. Have they comp.sold on homer or nothing aproach or have they lost all discipline and Cash being jaded or something. They had this look in the start of the season too b4 selling at trade deadline.
     
  18. Nick

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    I thought the argument is that Blanco should have been pulled earlier? Not sure how he’s supposed to get 4 innings of shutout baseball from the pen against this lineup, while not using all the high leverage arms? As it is, he actually did get 3 1/3, but thats with using Abreu/Hader (and agreed, they won’t be available tomorrow).
     
  19. Pinchpincher

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    I might be really dumb and not up to date of BP usage but my fear is trying to be cute and go all in for 1 game we might get swept if bats don't get hot for a game or two. So I would have used any shitty arm over Hader and be ok with it even losing. Easy to say now ofcourse when we lost but that was my thinking. Lets take what is given or what we get anyway but using your on record streak closer here for multiple was risky. Being swept and M's playing Rays kindergarten bs team not a good combo.
     
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  20. Qan

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    That's exactly what I said. To stay ahead, not try to get ahead.

    You understand what others are saying.
     

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