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[Official] Astros @ Phillies

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Castor27, Aug 26, 2024.

  1. tehG l i d e

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    Rays best SP are all out this series
     
  2. IBTL

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    It's not about being ahead 3.5. We should be ahead by a lot more. We're playing loser baseball right now.
     
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  3. Htown Stros

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    Pepiot is better than Eflin and Littell. He's been on a roll lately (3 ER in last 4 starts) and already shut the Mariners down once.

    Edit: Also, we have seen what Cash does with pulling starters early and getting to their pen, which is really good. We got dominated by their pen, not their starters.
     
  4. Buck Turgidson

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    **** that guy
     
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  5. Nick

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    Sounds like a fun learning issue for you… outs above average and how it’s calculated and how it translates to DRS, which eventually translates to RD, which has a loose but direct relationship with the WL record.

    Again, it’s not that he’s unplayable… but he’s not measuring close to average.
     
  6. Tomstro

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    Yeah, it’s a very small number.
     
  7. Buck Turgidson

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    Look at my tiny Yoda.
     
  8. Htown Stros

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    I think his argument is how many plays at 1B does that really impact over the span of the season. To his point, balls aren't generally hit to the 1B so the impact is going to be less than other positions.
     
  9. htownrox1

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    We need Tucker back in the most crucial way.

    Altuve
    Bregman
    Yordan
    Tucker
    Diaz
    Peña
    Caratini
    Whitcomb/Dezenzo/Dubon
    Meyers

    I’ll take that lineup against anybody in the postseason.

    Right now pitchers know they can pitch around Yordan, etc.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

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    Terrible. Sorry.
     
  11. Nick

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    Are you really counting the games where they only scored 2 runs? Because that would be 2 out of those 3.

    The plus side… if this pitching staff just shuts everybody out (which they’re very close to doing game-in/game-out), they’re going to win more of those games…
     
  12. Tomstro

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    He knows what my point is.
     
  13. Htown Stros

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    Doesn't sound like it lol
     
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  14. Nick

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    I’d take those chances if they were truly just pitching around him…. But Yordan will have to continue to do damage as the majority of the time, they are pitching to him.
     
  15. Houstunna

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    It's far more likely that a Dynasty stops "un-loser'ing", than Seattle becoming a competent offense.

    Neris has returned (and is ballin) and our rotation has finally stabilized. The 6-man will help keep everyone more fresh down the stretch. Tucker will return in 2 weeks too.

    Astros are in a much better position than last season at this same point. Now, we have a manager that won't actively sabotage a season due to feelings.
     
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  16. Nick

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    Those are all projected based on the DRS stats. Sure, he’s not a full-time guy there so maybe it’s less impactful…. Like players with negative WAR’s aren’t as hurtful when they play less? (His offense is actually contributing less to his negative WAR than his defense).

    But the crux of it is that he’s a well below average 1B based on the math… thus why they’ve had no problems experimenting and putting Diaz, Dezenzo, and tonight Caratini there. They’re all going to be below average to bad. May not cost as many wins as being bad up the middle.
     
  17. Houstunna

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    I would go Altuve-Tucker-Yordan and move Bregs to 4th for speed purposes... or perhaps Pena to 2nd to extend the lineup.

    But agreed.... those NINE will compete very very well.

    Altuve
    Tucker
    Yordan
    Bregs
    Diaz
    Pena
    Caratini
    Whitcomb/Dezenzo/Dubon
    Meyers

    or

    Altuve
    Pena
    Tucker
    Yordan
    Bregs
    Diaz
    Caratini
    Whitcomb/Dezenzo/Dubon
    Meyers
     
  18. Tomstro

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    Well I think it’s obvious that Jon is not a very good fielder but the eye test alone is also obvious that he’s better than Caratini or Diaz or Dezenzo. Now, the real question is how many extra hits does Jon give up, over average because of his lack of range only? Then, how many runs a game against us has this caused (over the average 1st baseman).?
    Only the games Jon has played 1B in should count. Its gonna be a really small number and that’s just common sense
     
  19. Qan

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    I guess the Astros gotta rely on the Mariners losing again to stay ahead.
     
  20. Nick

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    On average, based on his current usage and however many balls have gone there, his defense has yielded 6 extra runs compared to an average 1B.

    It’s a counting stat so it could get worse.

    His offense is actually allowing things to even out from a WAR standpoint (-0.1).

    Out of all Astros who have played an average amount of games at their position, he’s got the worst outs above average number (double what Abreu was doing). Altuve with second worse, tied with Yordan.
     

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