Can anyone explain how this came to be? I just do not get it. I have 2 brothers, in 2 different states, that live in very nice, predominantly white communities (they are white as well) who in the past couple years have started home schooling their children and one of the wives (the other doesn't do much social media) is constantly posting trad wife literature. To the point where yesterday she posted her and her child's daily schedule on instagram, and she has an hour or so blocked out in the morning for "mother culture" I just do not get it! Can someone help me? When I first met my SIL she was a hip early 20's kid in Austin covered in tattoos and seemingly progressive ideologically. Maybe it's because I watched The Handmaid's Tale but this just totally gives me the creeps and I truly don't know if I'm over reacting.
I am not sure what your issue is. You think it's wrong for a mother to put all her energy into being the best mother she can be?
Wrong is a strong word, but I do find it a strange shift. My main question - as posed in the first sentence of the post "Can anyone explain how this came to be?" Like what sparked this movement.
Not to worry. The public school system will sort these kids out, after these would-be teachers of children discover that this was not their actual forte. I blame covid. Public school teachers were never trained to teach children via zoom and unsurprisingly failed spectacularly. Moms had to pick up the pieces and once they started the teaching of the children ...
It's largely cyclical. 4th turning theory covers this. Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. Weak men create hard times. The average age for the first time a woman has birth is at an all time high ... something like 27 or 29. This was similar to the 1920s. It's expensive to have families so women are waiting later in life. Eventually this shifts back in the other direction where family is put higher than material living, thus the boomer generation. If she is 'hip', she is probably feeling the trend. Whole life living is trending up. People are drinking less and are more health conscious. I know this is controversial, but a gen x white woman is very unappealing.
it was pushback to the increasing amount of women who were striving to have careers, putting off having kids or not wanting them, and who were able to be “ms. independent”…pushback against the increasing amount of women who didn’t just want the stay-at-home life trad-wife movement is part of the “traditional values” mindset where a woman’s role is to have kids, cook, clean the house, do laundry, wash dishes etc that girl who got 5 seconds of fame a few months ago for saying the n-word non-stop and then tried to use her clout to become a right wing influencer was a trad-wife social media person
Not really a being-a-good-mother thing. It is a subculture. You can be a good mother a thousand different ways and most of them don't involve calling yourself a trad wife. For outsiders, I don't think the concern is about a trad wife being a bad mother. It is unsubtly a rejection of feminism, so using that vocabulary mostly plants a flag about your politics. That's fine. Plenty of conservative women out there and they can reject feminism if they want. But not surprising that others hear the signal.
Calling yourself a trad wife is the equivalent of having a bumper sticker on your Subaru stating you adopted a dog. I would like you better if you adopted a dog and said nothing to anyone except those who ask.
It can be both (trying to be a good mom and being in a subculture). Why people get into things so hard and involve themselves deeply in social media is its own thing, that clearly isn’t exclusive to #MotherCulture or #PugMoms or #RocketFans or whatever. That heavily depends if that’s what the individual person is doing or not, if you’re celebrating or promoting something you like, all good. If you’re being spiteful and shaming others for not following the “correct” path, not cool. There’s nothing wrong about stay at home moms, and there’s nothing wrong with independent working women who don’t have kids, and everything in between. Women can be who they want, and hopefully not be shamed for it.
This kind of the explaination I had There is a movement among women that the "Ms Independent" life is not what was sold to them Yea. . . they have more freedom but also more responsibility When you add kids into the mix they have more responsibility than any women in history After working 40 hr weeks and paying all the bills and taking care of the kids for 15 yrs alot of women are tired. They look at the 1st wave feminist like. . .what were you thinking??? This really hits home after they hit "the wall" as the red pillers call it When they are not longer the hot new thing and having hot girl summer When they are the after the club "You up" chick instead of the Ruth Chris chick Feminism has been very liberating . . . for men! Can get the sex without the responsibilities much much much easier Legit in 2024 their is very little incentive or reason to get married. whereas previously it was a survival mechanism Rocket River
It's never fully gone away but it's been growing in influence for a few years now. There's a small but growing movement of younger folks rejecting mid-20th century progressive notions and desiring a return to traditional marriage/gender norms. Man works, mom stays at home and raises kids, they prioritize religion [usually] and traditional values. "Traditional Catholicism" has really caught on in the same time period - younger people who have bothered staying in their Catholic faith are the types to take it very seriously (or they would have left like everyone else) and prefer the older more formal/aesthetically traditional ways.
Have you ever met a woman? If so, have you ever heard one woman talking about another woman? Just asking questions.
Words of wisdom ... The poor need marriage, with or without love, in order to survive ... and ... the rich can survive without marriage or love.
I’ll say this, the one group of people that scare me in all of this are the men who walk around with the mindset of “I demand a traditional and obedient wife” etc mindset, which I’m sure overlaps with the subculture OP is mentioning.
Seriously back in 1940s and 50s While not a rule it was more prevalent that if you wanted consistent sex . .. you needed a spouse If you wanted kids .. . you needed a spouse Hell even some perks and awards and promotions were based on being a "family man" Now??? Sex is almost as easy to get as candy Kids out of wedlock is no big deal . . .and adoption agencies are trying to give them awa Business may see family as more of an impediment and distraction that a good thing Rocket River
Honestly I am not sure what trad mother really entails or if it's even a movement in itself. I think this is a topic that should tread lightly as there is nothing negative about it... at least from my understanding. I dont think politics plays a role nor is it an indictment on feminism. To me it strikes me as a mother who embraces traditionl style parenting, with involves parents being engaged with the child instead of letting society raising them. This includes a failing education system and the rampant screen addiction kids face. I don't see any indication this movement is trying to segregate children from society, much like the Chrisitian home school movement in the past. If I had kids now, I would either move near a excellent school or home school. There is no way I would send them off to the shitshow going on with typical schools today. There are some really good home school groups out there that have programs that are just as good as the extracurricular or electives.
It's ironic how the whole "Trad wife" thing seems to also feature the age-old Trad of the husband and wife being terminally online posting about tradness Hmmmmmm......
