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Jalen Green will be the Rockets' Numero Uno

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by kpdark, Jan 2, 2024.

  1. kpdark

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    No it doesn’t matter. Jalen brunson could have gotten a full max or possibly supermax from the knicks even though his FA deal was small. It only impacts extensions (unless you do a renagotiation and extension like lauri)
     
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    I've noticed this as well.

    *handles are bad
    *Inconsistent jump shot
    *poor defender
    *poor FG%
    *poor TS%
    *painted nails
    *womanizer


    We are getting down to:
    *inconsistent jump shot
    *painted nails
    *womanizer
     
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    His handle is still weak, he still has no jump shot, he's still a poor defender, his FG% is a joke, and his TS% is still a joke.

    The painted fingernails and the fact that he hit used as a mark by an old prostitute looking for one final 18 year payday is irrelevant. The problem is the same as it's always been, he's terrible at basketball.
     
  6. Verbal Christ

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    Need more of this from Jalen this year. LOL @ how defenses RUN to slow him down.
     
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    low IQ
    Not a good playmaker
     
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    Yes, Stone's early inexperience really showed with Silas.

    I think it's impossible to reverse engineer this process of who will be extended. As extension decisions come up, we should give everyone what they deserve.

    If they deserve it and we don't need them, the apron rules will make it so that we will know the problem a year in advance. So if someone has earned $30m but we have a better starter, then give them the extension. Once they become eligible you trade them for expiring/positive contracts and picks.

    That way we acquire maximum value rather than trading people early out of fear of the tiny risk that they walk for nothing. Frankly I think people just say that as a lazy excuse for wanting to trade someone they don't like.

    On FVV hell no. Love what he's done for us, but logically players his size in their early 30's = fairly rapid decline. Amen has to win the spot this coming season, he's an older rookie with two years pro experience and elite development environment under Udoka. I 100% expect by the end of season 2 he should supplant FVV as the starter. For me it would be alarm bells if we have Amen/Sheppard and we pay FVV $40m more at this age. We should be able to go with Amen/Sheppard and a room exception guy as insurance (roughly $5m/season IIRC). A year from now, Sengun/Green will be able to take like 60% of the playmaking load off them anyway. Our PG's job is going to be very easy. It's rare to have a passing big man of Sengun's calibre.

    No more excuses for Green or anyone else. We have stability, chemistry, culture and development. Even Udoka is not off the hook if he delivers his third consecutive disappointing offensive system of his career. It's a big year for everyone.
     
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    Mathloom Shameless Optimist

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    I've been thinking about this as well. Sengun, Green, Tari and Jabari are all eligible for extensions next summer.

    Maybe that's part of the calculus when it comes to postponing Green/Sengun decisions. Bring them and their agents to the table, show them the pie and how much more likely they are to be successful together than separately. Also demonstrate how much more non-NBA income you can make in a tax friendly state if you're winning playoff games on national tv vs not winning as much. It could legitimately trigger a new NBA dynasty if by some miracle they agreed.

    This group has had minimal friction. They all seem to be really friendly and supportive to each other. Udoka is good at creating a brotherhood environment too.

    It's usually unlikely to get discounts but I can see us having a better chance than most. It's a tight knit squad of unselfish guys. Fingers crossed.
     
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    Sam and Bryce put Jalen at 26th in the Top 24 under 24. Was ahead of Tari/Cam and behind Jabari/Amen/Sengun/Reed. Would mean there are 9 guys in his draft class ranked ahead of him because Suggs, Jalen Johnson and Kuminga both appear ahead of him later on in the video. Safe to assume they also have Mobley, Barnes, Wagner, Sengun, Herb and Cade ahead of him. Sam doubts his ceiling is higher than that of Suggs, Kuminga and Johnson.
     
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    When I see the BS going on in this thread, I can't help but think of that Australian break dancer who got a zero at the Olympics.... she clearly surrounded herself with worthless sycophants who gassed her up and told her how amazing she was.... and the result?

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    If she had one honest friend to risk being called a "hater" who would have told her that she was awful and looked ridiculous, she could have avoided embarrassing herself in front of countless millions and wouldn't have become the laughing stock of the internet worldwide.

    You guys might think you are doing Jalen a favor with your blind faith and undeserved optimism... but I'm just hoping he has at least one real friend that will let him know how close he is to blowing it.
     
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    Though I disagree with them mainly because they talk about players like Suggs being more efficient but not accounting for roles, the dude on the right literally said "Jalen Green probably has a higher ceiling than everyone ahead of him on the his list". Vecine disagreed with that aren't and the time in which he discussed Jalen Green makes me feel as if he has a personal grudge against him.
     
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    Such a silly thing for them to say Amen and Jabari are more valuable. Both of those guys had their best stretches of the season as excellent role players for a peaking Jalen Green. Sheppard has not even played a game yet.

    I totally believe there's a chance Amen/Jabari/Sheppard can eclipse Jalen in the near or distant future but I don't think that's been earned yet. I predict the podcast regret this prediction within the first 15 games of the season. Not hating, they actually produce decent content but this prediction seems pretty shallow to me.
     
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    I trust you understood he didn’t say “everyone ahead of him on his list,” as if anyone would forget Wemby, not to mention Ant.

    I did hear him say “anyone we will talk about tonight,” which meant players 19-24, plus any others below, like Jabari. In other words, he was saying that Jalen has highest upside of players near the cut-off.
     
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    As we have discussed before, the SG is asked to come in shooting high quantity of 3's.

    And that volume effects the outcome of FG% and TS%. You wouldn't hold Michael Jordan to the same standards. MJ with his 16% (3P%) his first
    4 years after 3 years of college.

    That Triangle offense doesn't get much play nowadays either.

    Jalen has it tougher in the sense illegal defense
    can be called practically every play.
     
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    White NBA media advanced analytic nerds hating young 19-22 electric scoring guards struggling with efficiency before figuring it out... Name a better duo.
     
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    You're correct. I didn't catch that. Probably should have because I forgot about Wemby and Ant and no way Green has a higher ceiling than Wemby obviously so they should have been my red flag that I heard it wrong.
     
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    Jordan shot 51%, 46%, 48% and 54% from the field his first 4 years in the league. His 4th year he shot 24 times a game. At 54% from the field. He took exactly one 3 point shot every other game that season. High volume didn't really seem to affect him much. Also hand checking was allowed and it was in the age of peak defensive centers roaming the paint.
     
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    Calling Jalen a zero is hilarious. He's a starter and #1/#2 option on a team that was .500. He had teams like OKC double teaming him. He lit up plenty of teams. Has he lived up to the hype no, but this post is exactly why you are classified as a Jalen hater.
     
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