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The 2024 Presidential Election

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  1. deb4rockets

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    link should work for everyone

    Trump or Harris? It’s a Tossup for Many CEOs
    Some business leaders are increasingly apprehensive about Trump but say Harris isn’t necessarily a better alternative

    https://www.wsj.com/politics/electi...qcbftfk357t&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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    The chief executive of Gulf Coast Bank & Trust isn’t thrilled about casting his vote for either presidential candidate in November.

    Guy T. Williams, who leads the community bank in southeastern Louisiana, said he is concerned about former President Donald Trump’s plans to impose more tariffs, a move that could raise prices and slow economic growth. But he isn’t sure Vice President Kamala Harris would be a better choice and worries about the prospect of higher corporate taxes.

    “Based on her past record, the vice president leans even further left than President Biden did, and probably has a little bit less economic understanding,” Williams said.

    Williams is one of a growing number of CEOs and financiers who find themselves without a natural political home this election season.

    The Republican party used to be synonymous with a pro-business mindset, while the Democrats were known as the party of the working class and labor unions. Those alliances have been muddled since the rise of Trump—and particularly after his selection of populist Sen. JD Vance (R., Ohio) as his running mate.

    Now, some business and financial leaders say they want lower taxes, lighter regulation and less antitrust scrutiny. They are in favor of free trade and concerned about social and geopolitical instability amid growing movements toward populism and isolationism. Many lean left on social issues such as abortion.

    That leaves this group in a tough spot, without an obvious candidate whose platform aligns with their views.

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  3. deb4rockets

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    Georgia could swing. Looking good.

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    I just want to be the first to congratulate you guys on the November victory.
     
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    Pocketbook vs integrity
     
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    Maybe trump should drop out might swing it back the other way.
     
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    You guys? Who are you voting for?
     
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    Trump is running for office to try and use Presidential immunity from facing prosecutions on all his felonies. No way in hell he quits. Besides, his overinflated ego won't allow him to.
     
  9. Astrodome

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    The losing ticket based on the polls and media adoration.
     
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    Why vote for a pathological lying con?
     
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    After seeing the crowds that Kamala attracts on the tarmac, I may switch to her.
     
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    Because Trump hates the same people he does.
     
  14. deb4rockets

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    That didn't answer my question.
     
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    Well hate isn't a winning strategy for someone running for President of our country.
     
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    I don't hate anyone.

    I think my answer was pretty clear.
     
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    At our company, we have yearly refreshers on ethics and integrity to remind everyone of how crucial they are to the business. And they truly are. Business leaders understand that operating in a corrupt environment is unsustainable. While some corrupt leaders might exploit such an environment for personal gain, it ultimately creates chaos for everyone else, causing the economy and innovation as a whole to suffer. Upholding the rule of law and combating corruption are essential for fair competition, ensuring that the best businesses succeed based on merit—not just those who offer favors to the President, as Trump has openly suggested.

    Why CEOs Are Excited About Kamala Harris | TIME

    Protecting the rule of law, not the law of rulers
    CEOs, even those on the dynamic frontiers of AI, cloud, crypto, social media, chip technology, and life sciences, care about the process guiding the rules of fair play. As one prominent GOP-supporting business leader told me, “business leaders prefer to invest where there is the rule of law, not the law of rulers.”

    As a former prosecutor, President Harris is unlikely to repeat excesses undermining the rule of law for American businesses seen across both political parties. Harris will not follow Trump’s serial partisan interventions, inserting himself into private business and regulatory processes to inflict personal vendettas motivated by political vindictiveness, lashing out at iconic firms such as Harley Davidson, AT&T, Ford, Lockheed Martin, Amazon, Merck, Delta, Coca-Cola, and GM—or provide favors to business friends.

    Trump supporters seem to wrongly feel that Trump is more hands-off, taking government out of business decision-making, but in fact Trump is more prone to servicing his personal interests. Likewise, Harris is unlikely to echo anti-capitalist, populist pitches by extremists on both sides, such as J.D. Vance declaring “it’s time America wages war on companies”, or “no more subsidies to the anti-American business class”; nor is she likely to resort to tired tropes, such as “corporate greed” and “corporate fat cat [vs.] working people.”


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    I asked why you would vote for a pathological lying con. How could you trust him?
     
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    Probably the same reason you voted for him. I lean conservative.
     
  20. deb4rockets

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    So you will only vote Republican, regardless if that means voting for a pathological lying con man who is cognitively declining before our eyes?
     

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