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Alperen Sengun is the Rockets' franchise player

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by AroundTheWorld, Jan 17, 2023.

  1. Bobbythegreat

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    It's been definitively proven multiple times now that he was bad before the 8 game hot streak and he was awful after the 8 game hot streak.

    The narrative about him "balling out the whole 2nd half of the season" is an outright lie.
     
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    That is kinda weird...

    When has Tari shown this? I think he's on a fast track to a high level three and D guy. But dude is a headless chicken on offense when it's in the half court.
     
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    I think you under sell him if you think he's just a 3 and D guy. He has a really nice mid range game. Over last few years he's gotten ball with time running down on shot clock and was able to effectively create.

    but also it would depend on how you view Drew League. Plenty of NBA players go there but Atari seems to be routinely dropping 40 at those games. Seems like he could do better than just be 3 and D. Always heard about monster games from Harden Lebron, and Kobe out there.!
     
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    There's some promise there, albeit on low volume. 37% from 3-10 feet is the real weak point in his scoring, and being a mediocre finisher at the rim at 6'8" doesn't help.

    NBA pros are supposed to utterly dominate Pro-Am leagues like the Drew, I remember Harden throwing lobs to CP3 all day over there.
     
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    Embiid
    Jokic
    KAT
    AD

    What type of meth are you smoking?
     
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    Hey, it's mid-August and Sengun has yet to be traded. Since the Knicks won't take him for Randolph and the Pacers won't even part with Myles Turner, we may have to suffer through another season with him. I do hope we can swing a deal at the tradeline and get some talent like Tristan Thompson or Capela. Maybe we could throw in enough sweeteners like Amen and Cam to bring back Bobby Portis.
     
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    Numbers are better than 29 year old KAT.
    AD is a PF. His own words. when you make it clear to the staff that you hate playing center, I'm not going to treat you as a center.
    Try again.
     
  8. rocketchamp

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    But AD does play center & when he does Sengun's nowhere in the conversation. Also in no world is Alperen Sengun a better center than KAT. You SOF always expose how radical you are when it comes to Sengun. He still hasn't developed a 3pt shot or plays defense
     
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    AD played 100% of his minutes at center. If he's not a center then the position doesn't exist.
     
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  12. AroundTheWorld

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    Alpi way better than KAT for sure.
     
  13. AroundTheWorld

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    How do you measure in a mathematically exact way "how many minutes a player played at power forward"?
     
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    Bballref somehow tracks it. I don't know how they accumulate said data though as it's a rather tricky thing to track as in a lot of it is guessing what the head coach is thinking when they deploy certain line ups. So it's rather subjective.
     
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    All stats were listed for last year.

    How's that "cherry picked stats"?

    Open it and read again.

    Ck the advanced.

    Other than 3pt shooting, Alp is already better.
     
  17. astrosrule

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    Just based on who's on the court. For example the most common 5 man group was davis, rui, lebron, reaves, russell. Someone is assigned each position when those 5 are on the court. In the 10 biggest 5 man combos davis never played with another big, so it counts him as the center. If the rockets played say sengun, adams, jalen, brooks, fred, either alpi or adams would have to be classified as the power forward (presumably alpi). It's highly likely that sengun plays less center for example than davis next season.

    If you look at the wolves for example, KAT went from 100% at center every season to last year only 5%, because he played with rudy and rudy would count as the center. I would personally quality KAT as a center and say that the wolves just played 2 centers but that's not how it works.
     
  18. rocketchamp

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    No he's not lol. First off, KAT was on a playoff team with another top 5 superstar. His stats last year were relative to his role playing along side Ant. His years as a primary option his numbers take a bump. These metrics aren't a indicator of anything.

    Swap out KAT & Sengun and Minnesota isn't a better team. Swap out Sengun & Jock Landale and the Rockets are going on a 10 game winning streak. Metrics don't account for obvious eye test
     
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    You mean swap out Sengun and Landale and then play 10 of the worst teams in the NBA then they go on that streak. Conveniently left out that little nugget, eye test by the blind.
     
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