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Kamala Harris selects Tim Walz as VP

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Aug 6, 2024.

  1. Nook

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    You are entitled to your opinion - I just listened to the exchange 3-4 times and was expecting her to be nasty or unreasonable to those chanting based on what right-wing social media (and was open to the possibility that she may well have been). I saw nothing when I watched it, I don't think or see objectively how someone could criticize how she handled it. It was a bunch of "nothing" to me objectively.

    As for her chickening out of a Fox debate. There was never a Fox debate scheduled, there was already another debate scheduled at the same time a place.... there wasn't a Fox debate scheduled, so there was nothing for her to chicken out of.

    Now - if she refuses to debate Trump at all, then it is fair to criticize her and call her chicken - but her chickening out of a debate on Fox that never existed, was never agreed to - and would be the same date and time as a debate already agreed upon? That is a REAL stretch.

    I am sure at some point Harris will do something that will deserve scorn, but I don't think either of these are examples of that at all.
     
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  2. Reeko

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    once again, the lies aren’t going to work

    Trump’s bungling of Covid destroyed the economy…George Bush destroyed the economy…that is what the last 2 Dem Presidents had to deal with

    u MAGA have no policy and offer nothing to the American people except for “anti-woke” garbage and culture wars

    Bipartisan border bill? U idiots blocked it because Trump said so as it would hurt his chances to win the election, then have the nerve to cry about the border.

    Capping insulin costs? U idiots voted against it

    The Infrastructure Bill that has brought jobs to America and is building roads, rails, and bridges? Most of u idiots voted against it, then try and take credit for the infrastructure projects in your city as a result of the bill.

    A bill to help veterans exposed to burn pits? U idiots voted against it, then changed course after the backlash became too much.

    I can go on and on

    the republican party is useless
     
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  3. Xopher

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    Inflation was low at the end of his Presidency due to COVID. Inflation started going up when the vaccine started getting put in people's arms and the world started opening back up. It then continued when companies realized they had us over a barrel and were making record profit margins. It takes a MINIMUM of a year to 2 years for any President's fiscal policy to affect the economy.
     
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  4. Nook

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    Probably. At least until it politically hurts her to not take questions. Right now she doesn't have to.
     
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  5. Reeko

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    Didn’t Trump recently propose a 60% tariff on all goods imported from China and a 10% tariff on all other goods imported from overseas?
     
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  7. Nook

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    Unlike most of what is in the MAGA social media world and is coming out of the Trump camp - this is a fair question. I don't know what his answer would be, but asking what/if any affiliation he has with Asad Zaman is a fair question.
     
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  8. B-Bob

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    Maybe VC Dance secretly wants to be in Green Day but is too chonky for their band tryouts. (And they didn't need anyone to play the triangle.)
     
  9. Nook

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    They didn't cause it.

    The first few COVID payouts were before Biden was in office.

    I don't think that Biden HELPED slow it down or stop it, but he didn't cause it.
     
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    Yes. If Trump gets his way with tariffs then you'll all be praying to go back to the Biden prices
     
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  11. Scarface281

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    The original debate date on ABC is still set for September 10, but it’s important to note there is a confirmed Fox News debate on September 4 that was announced a week ago, so saying one didn't exist isn’t accurate. Additionally, Harris hasn't committed to the September 25 NBC debate, and her avoidance of reporter questions, something presidential candidates typically engage in, does make it harder to view her as a strong leader. Instead more like a scripted candidate.
     
  12. Amiga

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    Host is misleading. Funding him is not mentioned in the original news story, so it seems to be a fabrication.

    I don’t care to check if the mentioned cleric glorifies Hitler and celebrates Jews being murdered (I would take anything from social media with a huge grain of salt, and I wouldn't automatically trust a news organization with a 'mixed' factual reporting rating that leans close to the extreme right).

    Why doesn’t one do a bit of reading before posting a question? Instead of relying on social media, seek information from sources that prioritize providing accurate answers rather than pushing a narrative. The story appears to be from the Washington Examiner (linked below). The title is designed to draw attention, but the content is mostly vague implications. It’s a weak association, but as we see too often, even the semblance of an association can spread like wildfire in the right-wing sphere and become distorted.

    None of the events seem to be one-on-one 'hosting' by him, and 'hosting' is not a very accurate description either.

    One is a meeting about mosque security among Muslim leaders in 2023.

    One is a press event calling for peace during the widespread protests in 2020.

    One is faith leaders (from 3 faith) delivering the invocation prior to the State of the State address in 2019.

    One is apparently a 2019 Ramadan event (based on social media post), but since there isn't more information on it, it's not clear who attended and where it was held.


    Source rating: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/
    • Overall, we rate the Washington Examiner Right Biased based on editorial positions that almost exclusively favor the right and Mixed for factual reporting due to several failed fact checks.


    Tim Walz repeatedly hosted Muslim cleric who celebrated Oct. 7 and shared pro-Hitler website link


    The imam, Asad Zaman of the Muslim American Society of Minnesota, joined other Muslim leaders in May 2023 for a meeting about mosque security with Walz's gubernatorial office in Minnesota.

    Zaman also spoke at a May 2020 event to call for peaceful protests with the governor during the riots in Minnesota sparked after George Floyd's death

    In April 2019, the cleric delivered an invocation before Walz's state address — just months after Zaman called for an end to a government shutdown at a press conference with Walz in January 2019.

    Zaman, moreover, attended a May 2019 event that Walz hosted for Ramadan, social media posts show.
     
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    You know I keep seeing this and this is just not right.... I saw the interview with Waltz commanding officer on CNN last night and I see where all of this BS is coming from.. Waltz ex-commanding officer is basically butt hurt and now he's doing what he can to get Waltz back..

    1. I know most of you have seen the timeline for Waltz and that basically tells the story... I will also try to explain other military lingo along the way.

    2. Lets start off with this disclaimer first.. After you have done your 20 you can basically retire when ever you want, you just have to notify your commanding officer and submit your paperwork. Once you have done 20 you are set for life... Most try to do 25 because you get better benefits...

    3. I am going to just summarize this... According to the time line Waltz informed his commanding officer early in 2005 that he had submitted his paperwork for a political position in 2004... So all was done correctly.. Yes there was some back and forth with waltz and his commanding officer on if he submitted his paperwork in for his discharge. So basically put he did put in his paperwork and he was discharged... Now according to his commanding office Waltz when above him to get the discharge signed which in truth is breaking the chain o command....

    So here is the closed door scenario.. High ranking enlisted personnel do this crap all the time.. Especially when they are friends with a high ranking officer.. The issue now is his commanding officer is butt hurt that he did that and now is trying to basically get revenge. In the military it's all about a couple of things..
    1. What your MOS/AFSC is
    2. WHO YOU KNOW
    There is no dark side to this or anything else.. The individuals who spreading this crap is all about revenge... So this is why you're seeing conflicting stories from individuals.

    So yes Waltz and Harris crafty writers need to watch how they are saying things... They are playing with words and that's not good.

    T_Man
     
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    he’s mad because Joe Rogan endorsed RFK Jr yesterday

    such a childish person
     
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    why wouldn't he be? and besides, rogan and trump have always been at odds. so what rogan agreed with trump more during the pandemic and shook his hand at a UFC event, he has still never even interviewed the guy. something that'd have been easy to do at this point. he's had rfk on for interviews several times on the other hand. rogan has always leaned democrat, which is where a good chunk RFK JR's supporters come from.
     
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  17. Reeko

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    the main thing they’re disputing is the baseless accusation that Walz has stolen valor and the notion that he found out he was about to get deployed and was basically like “oh hell nah, I’m out…I’m retiring” deserting and betraying his men…now the death of a soldier is being used against him as well…they are also saying he never earned the rank of Command Sergeant Major

    this is some evil and demonic stuff

    When u say they should watch how they are saying things, could u say what u mean by that? As a military guy, what would u have the Harris and Walz campaign say in this instance in the face of these claims and accusations?
     
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    I’m mad too.

    :mad::mad::mad:
     
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  19. Scarface281

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    Claimed he retired out a CSM....nope he didn't.
    Claimed he went to war...was in the rear with the gear, and ironically Trump has seen more combat (Butler, PA) than Walz has as a NG
    Claimed he carried weapons of war in combat....he didn't, he was a Chairborne Ranger.

    He didn't need to lie. Over 20 years is a long time to serve but to claim you were more than just pushing paper admin is a slap in the face to those on the front-lines. people were making fun of Vance but excuses for Walz. The Harris campaign had to edit the bio because of it. This is an integrity thing
     
  20. Invisible Fan

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    lol Trump seeing more combat...

    Someone's used to his fully soiled XXL diapers enough to spew venom at Vets who served

    FIT 4 DOODY
     

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