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Kamala Harris selects Tim Walz as VP

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Reeko, Aug 6, 2024.

  1. Scarface281

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    You knew what I meant especially since I already referred to them as protesters before.

    Not all protesters have ended in violence at Trump supporters but she did not handle the pro-Palestine protesters well at all. Saying I'm speaking, the death stare, looking at the crowd for validation, etc. Should have been cordial and more calming. these are people that would vote for her over Trump and discouraging them to fill in the president box in Michigan would help Trump. This is why they released that statement after.

    I never called them the Hamas candidates either. Kamala is pro Israel and will do whatever it takes to protect israel. Do pretend otherwise would be idiotic. She'll talk like she's for Palestine for votes but the PROTESTERS know the truth which is why they were chanting she supports genocide
     
  2. Amiga

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    Everyone in Congress is an insider trader, except for Walz. Why? Because there is no rule against it.

    Good luck making that argument to police officers, public school teachers, firefighters, military personnel, and other public sector workers in the swing states that their perspectives are limited just because their careers are in the public sector.
     
  3. Kemahkeith

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    Im not arguing that fact.

    I was Air Force for 8 years a combo of active and Air guard. My opinion is different than yours.
    You can see it your way and I will see it from my point of view as an air Man who served in Dessert Storm.

    I'm not asking you to vote for anyone else. Just letting you know that when a person is supposed to be the Sheppard to his group and decides, yeah, I'm good getting out.
    it takes a toll on all who bought into his leadership.
    Again, this is only my take no disrespect to you or others who feel the opposite.
     
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  4. Scarface281

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    Allowing that in women restrooms is fine but I think some were weirded out it is approved for men's restrooms. He's able to retire but I think people were saying he conveniently did so right after being told he was to deploy. And yeah Vance may not have been in combat but he was in Iraq doing his duty. I think looking at the issues in MN is more effective. There is a clear difference between retiring during a time of peace and retiring right after being told you are to be deployed in a time of war, even if that war was ****ed up.
     
  5. DatRocketFan

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    I just find it wild that u would hold it against a vet of 24 years choosing to retire going through the proper channel vs trump a draft dodger who became our command in chief.

    With your stance commanding officers can never retire bc it takes a toll on those who brought into their leadership. If he abruptly retired and didn't finish up his term your feeling is more validated but man serve 24 years what more do u want? To sign up for more years and become a military man for life?
     
  6. Kemahkeith

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    I should have married up.
     
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    She started by saying, it's all good. It's all good. That reassures attendees that she is in charge like a good leader should be and that she'll hear the dissenting folks. That was calming.

    Then she addressed the protesters. She boiled it down. If they are supporting Trump then say so but it's her turn to talk.

    There are times and formats when they can present their concerns and they will be discussed. That wasn't their intention.

    Her response was calm, but also established that she is in charge. It's a good look for a candidate for the Presidency. It is certainly better than having audience members violently attack the protesters and encourage them by lying that you'll pay the legal expenses.
     
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  8. Xopher

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    Then you should know how orders work.

    1. His official retirement date was May.
    2. He can't just walk in and say "I retire" and be retired. His retirement had to be put in MONTHS before his May retirement date.
    3. His detachment did not receive orders until July. At least 5 or 6 months AFTER he put in for retirement.
     
  9. DatRocketFan

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    Man served 24 years he is not expected to or has to sign up for more if he doesn't want to. Folks generally aim to retire at 20, he went for 4 more years after 9/11. Man is a patriot and folks questioning it is wild especially if a man is a 24 year vet.

    No one should blames folks from retiring from the military after fulfilling their contact, they served their country and earned that right.
     
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  10. Amiga

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    I agree. She showed a bit of anger, and while that might appeal to some people, I prefer a calmer response. Better yet, something like: It’s as if these people (I'm not sure if it's one person or more, or if they are men or women) just fell out of a coconut tree.

    Moreover, I think it reflects internal frustration within the campaign with the 'extreme' left wing of the party. What she’s essentially saying is that if you continue down this path, you are effectively voting for Trump. At some point, if this continues, the campaign will have to cut off from them. You can’t win everyone over, and you definitely shouldn’t bend over backward to win over the 'extreme' wing of the party that can't think strategically for 1 whole second.

    Her reaction, however, is nowhere near what Trump’s reactions have been (advocacy for violence toward protesters)
     
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  11. Kemahkeith

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    Timing is everything.
    I agree with you on Trump being a draft dodger.
    Hell Bush Jr. got daddy to place him in the National guard so as not to see action as well.
    I'm sure there are more.

    I'm not going to give you the, you weren't enlisted, so you don't understand line.

    just stating my point from one who served in wartime. I was no hero, but I was there in case my fellow Airmen needed me.
     
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    Yes he retired 5 months before deployment. Three before the they were activated.
    I am trying to keep this civil. But I think you may be looking for an argument that is not there. Go yell as Salvy or someone else.
    Im not the MAGA droids you are looking for.
    I clearly stated that this is my opinion and mine alone
    Please do not insult my knowledge of how orders work.
    I most assuredly know how discharging works. I lived it.
     
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  13. DatRocketFan

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    Just saying if the act of a 24 year vet exercising his right to retire rubs u the wrong way, I figured u would b quite digusted or even livid that u have a draft dodger running to become commander in chief again.

    How a vet choosing to support a draft dodger and expect him to stand up or even care for the vets, that something I don't understand.
     
  14. Kemahkeith

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    I don't have a draft dodger in the white house.
    and I did not vote for Trump last time out.
    I voted for this guy
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    All the cool kids are doing it.
     
  16. DatRocketFan

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    Not u per say. I just find it weird that there are vets and "patritotic" Americans getting hot and bothered of walz choosing to retire after 24 years of service yet aren't faze that the orange one is a draft dodger.

    Like the attack angle of walz abandoning his country after 24 years of service just sounds funny when u compare it to the draft dodger or even jd vance who served even less years.

    Of course we shouldnt gauge how patriotic or loyal a person is to their country compared to other vets simply on years of service. It's just a strange thing to attack him on. 24 years is more than enough in the military.
     
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  17. Xopher

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    Then how in the world can you say he abandoned people when he put in papers 5 months before he even knew they were deploying? They didn't deploy in July. They received the paperwork they were going to deploy in July. The vast majority didn't deploy until the following year.
     
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    Well, you said me basically.
     
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    You're talking to a guy that complained about Pride Month and said he wished vets had their own month...which they do, and have had just as long as Pride has been a thing.
     

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