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Reed Sheppard is the Rockets’ Franchise Player™

Discussion in 'Houston Rockets: Game Action & Roster Moves' started by J.R., Jun 26, 2024.

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Do you like the selection of Reed Sheppard?

Poll closed Oct 14, 2024.
  1. YES

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  2. NO

    6.0%
  1. ApacheWarrior

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    Plan was to have Parsons wait on re-signing with Houston....after Bosh was signed.

    Because if Parsons signed first, we would have been hard-cap and unable to sign Bosh thereafter.

    It had to be Bosh signed......then Houston could add their own player and go over the hard cap.

    Mark Cuban upset the apple cart along with Parsons. The showed a video of Cuban with
    Parsons in a bar and Parsons signing the offer sheet. Clock began ticking.

    As you pointed out, just what the 76ers did with Maxey. Secured Paul George, Embiid already
    making his $40-$50M.....so PG13 and his $40-$50M was two players taking the salary cap to
    $100M-ish.

    Signing Maxey then could take them to $130M -$145M (don't remember what he signed for).

    Then they add the rest of the roster, piecemeal style.

    What do I believe?

    Rockets won't sign them days before free agency in order to add talent, then sign them and take the
    team salary cap to the second tier level.

    All I was saying was, the Sengun extension now still wouldn't kick in until next season.
    The poster made it seem Reed is making double what Sengun is making this year.
    As if an extension to Sengun would give Sengun $40M+ this season.....it would not.

    Either way Sengun would get paid next season.....extension or no extension right now.
     
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  2. J.R.

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    Generous to edit down those last two games :D
     
  5. Hemingway

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    I agree. I like Sheppard and think he will be a fine player, but Nix showed that he has a lot to work on before he makes much of a mark in the NBA. Nix bullied him all over the court and disrupted him big time. Nix may not make an NBA team this year. Reed is going to be overmatched against most of the NBA rotation guards and I doubt he makes the Rockets regular rotation until the second half at best, unless injuries propel him there.
     
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  6. Bobbythegreat

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    You can't really take much from a situation that would have been eliminated with better players on the team with Sheppard who wouldn't have hung him out to dry like that.

    Also, it's a 4th year NBA player going against a rookie who had already logged like 100 minutes in just a few days... AND he still put up very solid numbers anyway.

    The reality simply doesn't support the narrative.
     
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    That happened for 1 quarter and then he went 9/12 the rest of the way.
     
  8. Hemingway

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    You guys are in for a lot of disappointment if you’re expecting to see Sheppard getting significant minutes before the all-star. I’m pulling for the guy just don’t see who he is going to supplant other than holiday and he is probably slated for about ten mins a game.
     
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  9. Bobbythegreat

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    Holiday is the only other PG on the roster besides FVV.... there's no one to beat out other than Holiday.

    So that should mean that Sheppard would get something like 15-20 minutes a game as the backup PG.

    Again, I just don't see where your narrative even comes from.
     
  10. Hemingway

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    Because Amen is going to get mins at backing up fvv and holiday will get the nod over Sheppard for a while. Ime loves his vets.
     
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  11. Bobbythegreat

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    Ah, gotcha, you haven't realized that Amen's future is at the 3 yet and you think Ime will sabotage the team by playing inferior vets.

    I guess we'll see.

    Thanks for explaining your reasoning.
     
  12. Tuckmose

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    Even if you think Amen's future is as the lead ball handler making plays for others, he can just as easily do that with 2 Guards around him vs only one. LeBron was one of the best floor generals though his entire career but most of the best lineups around him had two guards.
     
  13. Bobbythegreat

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    Sure you could... but the spacing would be a LOT better with 2 guards on the court with Amen.

    It's just the terribly obvious move to play him as a point forward with Sheppard at the 1.

    I mean.... the team could choose to put lesser players on the court if they want.... but I'd hope the goal was to win and that requires the better players being on the court.
     
  14. Hemingway

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    I think Amen should be the starting 3 this year. Fortunately for the Rockets he has flexibility to play defensively anywhere on the floor. The Rockets will also use him at the PG position on offense at least part time when FVV is off the floor. As much as some want it to be something else, the Rockets see Amen as the most likely to become a homegrown star.

    They have to evaluate options this year while FVV is still on the roster while still trying to make the playoffs. It is unlikely that Ime will treat Sheppard any different than he did Cam last year. He will have to prove he can play on both sides of the court to earn minutes. I hope I’m wrong and Sheppard is a solid contributor right from the start, but I just think it is a contrarian opinion based on what we’ve seen of Ime. I am fairly certain he will see some time in RGV this year to work on his game against stronger and better competition than what was at Summer League.
     
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  15. Bobbythegreat

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    Cam and Sheppard are VERY different players, Cam came in as a 20th pick who was super raw, Sheppard comes in as the #3 pick touting a VERY high BBIQ.

    A raw athlete can learn basic team principles in the G league, a guy like Sheppard has nothing to be learned from the G league....and it would be robbing the Rockets of one of their best players to waste his time down in the G league. Both Sheppard and the Rockets would be better served by Sheppard developing as the backup PG for a season before taking over the starting job.

    Also, we saw in Summer League that Sheppard was already ahead of Cam as a player....so will Cam be starting down in the G league too?

    I suppose we'll find out eventually, and we know Ime doesn't set lineups based on merit, so anything is possible....but I'd hope they'd do what is best for the team rather than just starting out Sheppard in the G league just to say they did.
     
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    Sorry but i trust Ime’s and the entire basketball staff’s opinion more than your’s. I’m not nearly as high on Cam as others on this board and think he has to get way more consistent on both sides of the ball to get the kind of minutes he got even last year. I convinced myself that Sheppard was the right pick at no. 3 in this weak draft and love his bbiq, but even great shooters with bbiq are not going to be thrust into a 20 min role with a defensive coach like Ime. We can re-visit this after the first month of the season.
     
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  17. Bobbythegreat

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    Trust whoever you want, but I'm not the one who will be starting Dillon Brooks over Amen....

    So, by saying you aren't high on Cam, you're saying that you think he should start the season in the G league? That's the only logically consistent position given that you think Sheppard should start the season in the G league and he showed he was ahead of Cam on both sides of the ball in Summer League.
     
  18. MystikArkitect

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    No one expected him to look like he looked in SL so I wouldn't count anything out. How he looks in the pre-season will probably dictate a lot.

    I'm most curious to see his gravity when him, Jalen and Jabari are on the floor together.
     
  19. CXbby

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    Since no one is willing to take the bet with me, I’ll just bet myself. If Sheppard spends any time in the g league this year that’s not injury recovery related, I’ll ban myself. If he doesn’t, I’ll bump this post.

    Reed is a better prospect than Amen. Amen played over Holiday at the start of the season last year, Holiday only broke into the rotation after Amen got hurt, and then remain there after Tari was out for the year. Reed is never, ever, going to play behind Holiday. We signed Holiday for third string injury insurance and as a tradeable expiring contract, nothing more.

    No offense, but when some of us said before the draft that Reed Sheppard is by far the best prospect in the entire draft, which would have been a scorching take, and then the Rockets take him and basically tell you that’s exactly how they felt as well, maybe you should listen to us until proven otherwise.
     
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  20. daywalker02

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    I think you misunderstand, coach will trot out the rotation on any given night that gives them the best chance to win.

    A lot of time it would be vets, sometimes given matchup Reed Sheppard, he is not developing for development's sakes that is all.

     

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