I appreciate your Wikipedia link. Which part of that should we believe because there is nothing definitive about this person's chromosomes.
Woke people hate biology and math and Spanish and science and … reality is not part of their world breh
This is brain rot from social media algorithms. This is a controversy because bad faith grifters spammed it into a controversy. It is very clear she was born a female. There was one accusation that she tested for high testosterone and that rumor turned into "she's actually trans". Maybe she doped? Maybe it was a bad test but she 100% isn't transgender and you making these confident claims without the most baseline level of intellectual curiosity shows how you are willing to shoot from the hip with flimsy underlying facts.
That’s a dude bro The other mammals in the mammal family don’t do this lions and tigers don’t Apes don’t either @Salvy
The part where it says she was born a girl raised in a rural village in Algeria where her father tried to prevent her from her career path because he didn't believe girls should be boxing. The allegations of transgenderism came from a single test that had a high t count and rumors sparked from it. Obviously the far more reasonable explanation is either bad testing or she doped.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Kremlev This is the dude who spread the rumor. He claimed he had documented DNA proof.... But has never released it. He's a boxer who owned a transportation company. I don't think he has much experience in human biology.or genetics.
How many more women have been harassed and humiliated by anti-trans hunters accusing any woman that has any resemblance of masculine characteristics as men than actual transgender women harming biologically born women? You people are no protector of women. You will Harris and humiliate any woman if it fits your agenda I feel sorry for this woman. Like imagine the **** she reads anytime she sees herself being discussed in the Internet. People have committed suicide over less. This **** is disgusting This is exactly what we mean by "weird".
I’m not making any “confident claims” whatsoever. I’m just going by the information YOU provided to me in the link YOU posted. Who am I supposed to believe, the IBA or the IOC? They came to different conclusions. I made no “confident claims” whatsoever. I just want the competitions to be fair for everyone.
Bro there is no debate about where she was born a girl. The only contention comes from this dude: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umar_Kremlev Who does the "I have documented proof, but am not releasing it" shtick. The only thing that was definitive is that she had one single test that showed abnormal high testosterone which can be form so many other factors that has nothing to do with transgenderism. Maybe she doped. Maybe she's a born female with abnormal levels of testosterone. But I guess that means she shouldn't have had sports as a passion for her. She's a born girl. There is no debate. If you want to believe a former Russian boxer who owns some trucking companies who says he has documented proof that he isn't releasing, by all means believe such grifter types. It seems like you WANT to believe this is true.
Ok, I am not trying to down this person. I did not know until your most recent post that you dispute the IBA test results.
I want you to tell me the iba test results. Show me that you make accusations of transgenderism with reasonable curiosity and research.
I don’t want to believe anything. I’ve never even heard of any of these people until today. I guess you have been following all this. YOU posted a link that explained that there has been some controversy about this person in the past. I don’t know these people, I don’t know who to believe. I said that it seemed suspicious that the IBA didn’t release the test results. All I said was I don’t think it’s fair for someone with an XY chromosome to compete against a woman. XY chromosomes usually are found in men. I do not know what is going on with this woman. She may not have an XY chromosome. I accept that. I’m not making any accusations. I don’t believe what anyone says at this point. If the IOC wants to let her compete that’s their decision and I’m okay with it. But, I’m entitled to my opinion that men should compete against men and women against women, and that may have nothing to do with this case. I’m moving on from this topic, have the last word if you wish, but I’m done.
Engaging in bad faith grifting claims to spread a fake agenda is what allows these grifts to work. The entire trans issue is a manufactured outrage issue so blue collar white working class laborers don't complain about their rent lease renewal being upped by 300 dollars a month. And when you come in with these type of assertions without understanding this, you are helping these people push these narratives.
A Russian oligarch with a boxing background who owns some trucking company who was appointed to some boxing organization by Putin is claiming he has tests saying she has xy chromosomes and is refusing to release the actual test results. He's also a culture warrior. You tell me how credible the accusation is.
She is only 9-5 so not really that unbeatable. And pretty sure no one knew who she was before this article.
The accusation sounds like it may not be credible, but the first link you gave us only described the boxer and the controversy surrounding her. Maybe you should have started with the link talking about the Russian. That would have been helpful. Like I said, I don’t keep up with boxing, the different boxing federations, or the federation presidents and their reputations. All I ever said was men should fight men and women should fight woman. Thanks for informing me about the Russian.
And I'm saying that is an manufactured issue to distract white blue collar conservative leaning laborers from their yearly rent hike.
Believe it or not I think you and I are in agreement here. The entire transphobia thing is way overblown and is a big distraction from what’s really important.
