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Montero Appreciation Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by lnchan, Jul 31, 2024.

  1. lnchan

    lnchan Sugar Land Leonard
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    2.51 career postseason ERA will be forever appreciated but... everything else...
     
  2. donkeypunch

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    Gawdam thats a lot of dead money.

    Did Bagwell ever go to Florida with him to be a stand in at the plate?

    Good riddance.
     
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    Applause to crane for eating up all the money. must be nice to be rich.
     
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    Man was a key member a dominant bullpen when we won a WS. He will always be aces in my book.

    Giving him that contract wasn't a good idea when it happened, and actually played out as an unmitigated disaster.
     
  5. Qan

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    He's the one that signed Montero to that contract. I give him props for admitting his mistake...along with Abreu. Now if he'll stop getting involve in free agency, it'll be even better
     
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    Thank you for the 2022 post season.
    that’s all I got
     
  7. AWIN

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    I rode the elevator back up to the lobby with him and his kid after game 5 in Philly. The bar was closed so I hopped behind it and grabbed some mixers and limes then had a few whiskeys with Cintron. Later that night Pressly's wife came down and offered some leftover pizza they had ordered.

    I'm sad I won't be able to see him in the elevator banks this year when we go back to the WS.
     
  8. Phillyrocket

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    Good lord was Bagwell a terrible GM. Abreu and Montero both dumped and the money eaten.
     
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    How terrible the two big signings after winning the WS turned out to be. With Abreu other than the length of the deal, I don't think anybody expected him to such so much donkey, that's more tough luck than anything. Montero however was showing rapid decline towards the end of the playoffs, that contract was stupid from day one.

    Imagine if we had signed Eovaldi after 2022 instead of Montero and Abreu. Last year and this year could be so damn different. Damn.
     
  10. Joe Joe

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    I get that the contract for Montero was an overpay in a context neutral situation. I'm usually for evaluating things in a context neutral way.

    I get taking a risk on a roster that will likely become too expensive/difficult to keep together much longer, but still has 2-3 good shots at winning a World Series. Ended up being much worse than I expected.

    Caveat: I think attitudes on whether it is better to hoard prospects/burn the farm down should change as a team changes. I have probably flipped from being one of the most vocal for hoarding prospects to not caring much regarding long term value. I expect to flip back in a couple of years, but hope for a wild ride until then.
     
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    Worst GM ever Jeff Bagwell
     
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    I actually understood it from the value if he was successful. 65 innings of what he did in 22 was basically worth it and near market rate.

    My issue was that he was a historically unstable pitcher(at an unstable position) coming off one amazing season in a contract year. All 3 qualities scare me individually, much less all at once. There was very little upside...and a lot of downside, which unfortunately played out
     
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  13. SuraGotMadHops

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    I know starters and relievers are valued differently, but looking at Montero's numbers this year, they are barely worse than the same guy we just traded three prospects for. I think it just goes to show the overall buffoonery on the front office level. How is one guy bad enough to get cut, but the other is good enough to trade for?
     
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    They know what they have in Montero and feel like the new guy is more fixable.
     
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    Thanks for 2022. Like Abreu he's not trying to suck on purpose. Also not his fault he was offered a big contract. Everyone in his position would have taken it.
     
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    lol why did Crane/Bagwell feel the need to give him 3 years. Who were we competing against?
     
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    ^^^^
    This

    See Ya
     
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    I hope Crane and Dana learns that you can never have too much SP.
     
  19. raining threes

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    Exactly,

    They were handing out 3 year deals like they were candy this off-season.
     
  20. Rock Block

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    This thread is a bit premature, if he clears waivers he's probably coming back and down to AAA
     

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