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Project 2025: What is it really?

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Rocket River, Apr 17, 2024.

  1. deb4rockets

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    Trump's allies at Heritage have already started the spread of conspiracy theories to set the plot for Trump to incite another insurrection and coup if he loses again. They've already declared the 2024 election illegitimate in advance. That has Trump's hands and mindset all over it. Trump can't and won't ever accept the fact that he loses at anything. He's sick in the head.

    This is what happens when a pathological lying psychopath/sociopath is the party candidate. Trump will do whatever it takes to take over this country, and for a man without an ounce of integrity or morals breaking the law to get what he wants is something he could care less about. It's all about escaping prosecution, and cheating and lying to get what he wants for an entitled twat raised on a silver spoon.

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/poli...-election-illegitimate-in-advance/ar-BB1pPNCi
     
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  2. Amiga

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    Trump will always act in his own best interest. He has no other principles. The swiftboating tactic used against John Kerry applies perfectly to Trump. He changes his stance based on the prevailing winds or whoever pays him. If he becomes POTUS, he'll do whatever benefits him financially and psychologically, regardless of the consequences to the nation or others.

    Trump pushes Senate to vote on 20-week abortion ban (thehill.com)

    Trump Executive Order on Addressing the Threat Posed by TikTok – The White House (archives.gov)

    Trump keeps flip-flopping his policy positions after meeting with rich people - POLITICO
     
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    This is why Trump tried to run away from it like it's kryptonite. Y'all see the one exception?

    There is still too many "don't know"

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    It is old white people - mostly men- trying to desperately hang on to power, as the white majority wanes.

    It is not going to work and is hugely unpopular.....

    Taking the women's right to vote away.....yeah, right.....

    DD
     
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  7. Amiga

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    Yes I was going to say that they aren't that different so for those who say that Trump is distancing himself from Project 2025 Agenda 47 isn't much different.
     
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    Agreed, there VERY similar, but trump can't say he doesn't know about his own plan like he did about Project 2025
     
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    These idiots actually rolled out this trainwreck of nightmare policy ideas both unpopular and outright bad and that read like @StupidMoniker came up with them,

    gave it an extra sinister sounding name that could easily be circulated & branded,

    And then got the absolute freak show of former Trump criminals and wackos like Navarro and Ben Carson and Ken Cuccinelli to sign their names to it, as well as my favorite - Hans von Spakovsky, longtime GOP operative who spends his time wearing Jodhpurs and tending to his ranch in Argentina when he's not trying to ensure only whites can vote.


    Man lol @ these losers. Like Kamala says, "can you believe they put that in writing?!?"
     
  12. StupidMoniker

    StupidMoniker I lost a bet

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    Thank you. I don't agree with tons of stuff in Project 2025, but some of the things in the infographic seem fine to me (though not necessarily my ideal). For example, I wouldn't forbid gender affirming care (let people do what they want to their bodies). I wouldn't limit my changes to "civil rights" to the LGBTQ+ community, I would repeal the CRA of 1964 in its entirety. I wouldn't limit access to contraception. I wouldn't refocus law enforcement with an emphasis on loyalty. I would only increase immigration enforcement if I couldn't eliminate welfare spending, otherwise I would have open borders. Like most policy lists, there is good and bad.
     
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    wrong thread
     
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    JD Vance Foreword in Project 2025 Leader's Book Raises Eyebrows

    Wednesday, Roberts' book, Dawn's Early Light: Taking Back Washington to Save America, which is set to be published in September, started to gain traction on X, formerly Twitter, because its foreword was written by Vance, an Ohio senator and Trump's running mate.

    Kyle Tharp, managing director of Courier Newsroom, a liberal news source, posted on Wednesday morning: "Wow. The architect of Project 2025, Kevin Roberts, has a new book coming out in September about taking over Washington. JD Vance wrote the foreword.

    Vance also left an editorial review on Amazon, writing: "Never before has a figure with Roberts's depth and stature within the American Right tried to articulate a genuinely new future for conservatism... We are now all realizing that it's time to circle the wagons and load the muskets. In the fights that lay ahead, these ideas are an essential weapon."

    JD Vance is close friends with Project 2025 mastermind Kevin Roberts and more than 100 former Trump staffers were involved in creating the extremist policy guide for a future Trump administration.

    https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-kevin-roberts-project-2025-book-foreword-1929753
     
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    Screenshot_20240726-174917.png

    The Orange Menace claims to know nothing about Project 2025, the Christian fascist playbook for kicking the aspirant freedom and justice for all out of the US Government for good, but his gremlins are all out promoting it. JD Vance has nothing but love for the plan, and MTG and Kari Lake join him.

    MeidasTouch has now discovered that Kari Lake and Marjorie Taylor Greene made an appearance in a Project 2025 promotion video. Project 2025 made the video during their visit to CPAC in March of 2023.

    The group had a booth at the Trump headlined event and posted the video with Green and Lake to social media multiple times.

    https://boingboing.net/2024/07/25/trump-adherents-greene-and-lake-are-promoting-project-2025.html
     
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    @Salvy

    Care to read for yourself and comment on whether Trump’s agenda mirrors Project 2025?

    Or do you love Trump so much you’ll just take his word for it when he says he’s not for Project 2025…even though his agenda/priorities mirror Project 2025 and both were created by basically the same damn people.
     
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    First of all, ever since Trump's VP pick I haven't even been on board to vote. I will decide that in November depending on how Trump handles the upcoming months. I think he is arrogant and got too confident to the point where he made critical mistakes with the vp and continues to make critical mistakes on the way he is handling his immigration rhetoric. I think he is stuck in a box and at his age he will not find his way out and I think he is being unfair in many of his discourses on many cases.

    However, you are showing me 10 things about Trump's plan that coincide with project 2025, a 900+ page proposal by some right wing nutjobs..... Is that it? 10 things out of 900 + pages? I'm sure there's more. But I'll play....

    There are insane things in project 2025 that are downright crazy, still... When you write 900 pages you are bound to get some things right and Trump's plan on immigration is correct. We do need some massive deportations, the influx of immigrants causes by the border crisis has had major consequences for areas of this country. I'm not gonna spew bs rhetoric about immigrants taking jobs or getting Medicare but many counties have been devastated and stripped of facilities. Not to mention the costs of housing and feeding these immigrants while more and more Americans struggle due to inflation.

    I think Trump is 100% right on abortions too. I do not support in any way a national abortion ban. I do think exceptions should exist and I do think women should have the ability to get an abortion under several circumstances but to treat abortion as birth control is downright careless and evil. The states should have the power to decide their laws on abortion. This is the way, this is the middle ground.

    Department of education should also be abolished, its a total disaster and something should be done about it. The list goes on and on things I think Trump is actually a moderate about. And that's a good thing.

    Am I a racist nutjob because some of the things in Trump's plan are very reasonable and they coincide with project 2025? No, but trying to fear monger about something Trump did not implement in the past as president is ridiculous. If we are going to be honest, project 2025 is The Democrats main weapon on attacking Trump. Do they believe Trump would do it? No they don't. I doubt you believe Trump would implement project 2025 also.

    I'm honestly shocked its continuously being talked about, not because it "hurts" Trump but because its so insane....And most won't ever even read 10 pages out of those 900. But they will proclaim it to be Trump's plan. I hope its not, project 2025 is not what I want as a conservative and its not what I'm looking for as a voter.
     
  18. Rileydog

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    JD Vance being the VP choice is further evidence of Trumps support of Project 2025. Vance wrote a glowing forward in new book written by the head of Project 2025. Unless you think that Trumps vetting of Vance failed to find out that basic fact. (In which case Trump and his staff are incompetent).

    And the “right wing nut jobs” you refer to… those folks are architects of Trumps agenda.

    Right wing nut jobs. JD Vance. There is a not very subtle pattern here. Hmmmm, it’s almost like Trump likes Project 2025, if you’re paying attention to his actions.
     
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  19. Salvy

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    Trump made a mistake with JD, I've voiced my opinion here loudly on that. I don't think he is the right choice, I don't think he is either competent enough or smart enough to handle being VP. He took Trump's MAGA rhetoric and dialed it up 100 in order to appease the MAGA crowd. To me it come's off forced and cringe. He is an equal to the AOC's and Kamala's of politics. Your whole thing can't be trying to offend and insult people. The U.S is not a forum where you can $hitpost and just say anything to try and piss people off.
    Maybe my opinion on him change but as of now I don't like it.

    With that said, I don't see how you can not see that Project 2025 has some fair and reasonable ideas. They are conservative ideas but just about every conservative probably has something they agree with in a 900 page proposal written by conservatives. If Kamala wins and we go the other extreme and not implement anything in project 2025 would that actually be good for this nation? What if Kamala does decide that mass deportation is necessary at the moment, does that mean she agrees with or supports Project 2025?

    I'm sure Trump likes things in Project 2025, I like things in Project 2025... Even the few things in Project 2025 that are perfectly reasonable and moderate will have a hard time passing through congress anyways before Trump can even sign on it so to think that Trump will implement a 900 page proposal that involves anything concentration camps is ludicrous.

    Are Democrats misleading people by proclaiming Project 2025 as Trump's policy, of course they are. Are they trying to attach Project 2025 to Trump because there are incredibly awful things in it and that makes Trump look bad? Once again absolutely.

    But at some point we have to be honest with ourselves about the truth and leave the narratives aside.
     
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