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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. Os Trigonum

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    CBN News has all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation

     
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  2. FranchiseBlade

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    All the inaccurate news stories in the world won't change what Biden said when appointing her and what she did in executing the duties.
     
  3. Os Trigonum

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    related

    https://www.azag.gov/sites/default/files/2021-05/AG Brnovich Letter to President Biden - 5-12-21.pdf

    I've been trying to find Biden's response where he corrects the mistake in calling Harris a 'border czar,' but I can't seem to find it anywhere online. I've done searches for 'root causes czar' and everything.

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  4. FranchiseBlade

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    Because a MAGA AG got it wrong and Biden didn't correct him doesn't change anything.

    The full speech and transcript of the appointment has been posted. The actions she took have been posted. She was never appointed as a border Czar. I'm sorry for anyone that has a difficult time dealing with those facts.
     
  5. Os Trigonum

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    here's a really helpful timeline of her work as Root Causes Czar. I still think there are problems with her record.

    VP Kamala Harris and ‘Root Causes’
    A brief timeline and a whole lot of confusion. But you can’t blame her for wanting to distance herself from the migrant crisis

    https://cis.org/Arthur/VP-Kamala-Harris-and-Root-Causes

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    The third — and most significant — issue is that the White House’s “root causes in Central America” approach at best responds to what was happening at the border in March 2021, not what’s been happening since.

    Of the nearly 170,000 illegal migrants apprehended at the Southwest border that month, 86 percent came from Mexico or the “Northern Triangle” countries of El Salvador, Guatemala, or Honduras.

    More than 54 percent of the migrants apprehended there thus far in FY 2024, however — nearly 797,000 individuals — come from someplace else.

    As noted, Harris told Lester Holt that “We have to ... ask, ‘what is that reason’” migrants are coming illegally, “and then identify the problem so we can fix it”. She plainly failed to identify the latest “problem”, which isn’t so much Mexico and the Northern Triangle as migrants from other countries.

    Which brings me to the fourth factor. Instead of expanding this “root causes” approach to Cuba, Haiti, Nicaragua, and Venezuela (four countries that plainly suffer from poor governance and corruption), the Biden/Harris administration instead decided to allow up to 30,000 nationals from those countries — none of whom have visas or any right to be here — to enter monthly under its CHNV parole program.

    Unless Harris has no input whatsoever into White House policy — and was simply given “root causes” to make it seem she was doing something — those countries would have been ideal candidates for the program as they are all objectively relatively poor and corrupt (and Haiti is dangerous to boot).

    There’s a special CHNV parole program because nationals of those four countries have accounted for nearly 1.2 million Southwest border apprehensions since October 2021. A root causes strategy focusing strictly on Mexico and Central America was obsolete as soon as it was announced — a fact Harris should have known if she’s paying any attention at all.

    Kamala Harris’s border duties have never been clearly defined. Since March 2021, however, she’s done everything possible to distance herself from the administration’s migrant disaster at the Southwest border, especially now that she is the presumptive nominee. And, honestly, who can blame her?
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    Again, it changes nothing. It isn't surprising that people ran with the inaccurate public narrative. It happened when people got it wrong about Al Gore "invented the internet" or that 9/11 hijackers used box cutters to hijack any of the planes. The fact people and media went with inaccuracies doesn't all of a sudden make them accurate. That is true in this case.

    It has happened and will likely happen again.

    It is fine to debate the administration's policy and enforcement. It is also possible to criticize her diplomatic efforts, even though she was at least partially successful in her efforts. But people can debate that without using inaccurate information.

    But because it is now more important than it was then since she is the presumptive nominee, it makes sense for people to correct it.
     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    she was called the border czar on the floor of the House

     
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    Correct. She was, by MAGA members of Congress.

    That in no way, shape, or form makes it more accurate. There is plenty of false information that comes out on the floor of Congress.

    Like I said. The story was out and being run with by many. It isn't surprising, especially coming from MAGA. It in no way makes the label more accurate. It doesn't change the initial appointment. It doesn't change what was said at the time. It doesn't change the releases from the white house. It doesn't change her actions that she took that fell in line with what her appointment was.
     
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    Literally just said the unspoken bit out loud.

    Just VOTE this time you will never have to vote again......because he will be a dictator.

    DD
     
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    If Kamala was the border czar then she is much responsible for the border crisis... Not a good start if Democrats chose her as the nominee to run against Trump...
     
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    Haven't seen any photos of Kamala with Epstein either

     
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    Smart move by the Trump campaign. This could be bigly.
     
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    This is now Trump's border crisis. He killed the bipartisan effort - and the country needs to know it.
     
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    There is no border crisis thou...
     
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    Trump is starting to get that Biden retirement home look himself. In a year or two the guy will likely be struggling quite bad.
     
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