1. Welcome! Please take a few seconds to create your free account to post threads, make some friends, remove a few ads while surfing and much more. ClutchFans has been bringing fans together to talk Houston Sports since 1996. Join us!

2024 Hypothetical Astros Trades Thread

Discussion in 'Houston Astros' started by Snake Diggit, Apr 23, 2024.

  1. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,257
    Likes Received:
    102,339
    Let the kids play ;)
     
  2. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,734
    Likes Received:
    10,984
    I think Philly would be the perfect spot for Chas and they are looking for a RHH OF.

    But they aren't giving up any MLB talent.
     
    raining threes likes this.
  3. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,833
    Likes Received:
    24,129
    Snake Diggit gets:
    Kate Upton
    Natalie Portman
    SMTBNL (Supermodel to be named later)

    World gets:
    My middle aged exhausted short tempered wife
    My 2 whiny kids
    $35

    Seems realistic.
     
    SWTsig, Nook, IowaAstro and 5 others like this.
  4. Qan

    Qan Member

    Joined:
    Jul 20, 2012
    Messages:
    5,039
    Likes Received:
    7,226
    Yah...but atleast you got a chance with the lottery.
     
    GOATuve and raining threes like this.
  5. Castian Crew

    Castian Crew Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2023
    Messages:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    4,867
    This is actually smart. Without Kate, JV would be more apt to throw his concentration back into baseball again. Ring 3 confirmed!
     
    Snake Diggit likes this.
  6. Wulaw Horn

    Wulaw Horn Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,833
    Likes Received:
    7,085
    I mean- sure- it won't happen. Neither will like 99% of the trades on this thread. Is that fair value- would you do any of them?
     
  7. Wulaw Horn

    Wulaw Horn Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,833
    Likes Received:
    7,085
    There is way more surplus value and WAR going out in all those trades than coming in. Pick any one of them and tell me what you think is the ballpark of a winning bid.
     
  8. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,734
    Likes Received:
    10,984
    The idea that the Rays are interested in Chas McCormick puzzled me at first, because next year is his 2nd arb season and that's generally when they look to trade guys for younger cheaper ones.

    Then I realized that Chas' 1st arb salary was a very cheap $2.85M and he has done nothing to increase that next year. He WILL get a raise, but short of a huge final 60 games, it will be very minimal.

    That is right up TB's alley and they value defense in the OF.

    I would love for the Astros to get Yandy Diaz or Isaac Paredes, but both look to be very affordable at least next year so I think they stay in TB until at least next trade deadline.

    But Randy Arozerana is another matter. After a slow start he has destroyed pitching since June 1st. He has an $8.1M salary also with 2 years of arb raises coming. So they could save $15M or more by having Chas instead of Randy the next 2 years.

    Arozerana would solidify LF and slide into the middle of the order.

    Reports say the Rays are also looking to get out from under Zach Eflin's $18M salary for next year as well and he would be a great and desperately needed addition to the Astros rotation.

    The Rays are always looking for young cheap position players and high ceiling toolsy pitching prospects.

    Chas McCormick, Shay Whitcomb, Alonzo Tredwell, Miguel Ullola, and Alimber Santa For Randy Arozerana and Zach Eflin.
     
  9. Castian Crew

    Castian Crew Member

    Joined:
    Feb 6, 2023
    Messages:
    4,272
    Likes Received:
    4,867
    Do not want Hey Macarena in our clubhouse. Reminds me too much of Garcia of the Rangers and don't need anyone on our team negatively influenced. He'll bring us down instantly and be a thorn until released.
     
  10. Buck Turgidson

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2002
    Messages:
    100,257
    Likes Received:
    102,339
    20 lbs head-on shrimp from Rosie's in Seabrook, 10 lbs blue crabs, 2 redfish on the halfshell.

    for

    40 lbs custom butchered beef and/or venison

    No shipping. You drop off and pick up same day.
     
    AkeemTheDreem86 and Nook like this.
  11. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,734
    Likes Received:
    10,984
    You know the old saying- "Sure, he's an ******* but he's OUR *******?"

    I think he would adjust to the Astros team and clubhouse and fit in quite well. I'm sure he would also appreciate actually having fans cheering him while in the box and in front of the Crawfird Boxes.

    This team needs some energy and emotion and I like what he would bring.
     
    desihooper and Castian Crew like this.
  12. Snake Diggit

    Snake Diggit Member

    Joined:
    Mar 12, 2012
    Messages:
    14,833
    Likes Received:
    24,129
    Oh I was just making fun. I don’t think those trades are that far off although Crochet is going to bring back multiple elite prospects which there were zero in the package you proposed. I actually think the Rooker deal would be a potential overpay.
     
    Wulaw Horn and Htown Stros like this.
  13. Htown Stros

    Htown Stros Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,579
    Likes Received:
    9,068
    I wouldn’t do the Rooker one (strikes out a ton and isn’t good in the OF) but I’d without question do the other two. Don’t think there’s any chance the CWS or Jays accept those offers though. It’s going to be a sellers market…Crochet will bring back a ridiculous package.
     
  14. Htown Stros

    Htown Stros Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,579
    Likes Received:
    9,068
    Just read your reply after posting mine and pretty much said the same thing. Only thing I’d add is really think the Jays are going to get someone (Mariners) to overpay for Vlad.
     
  15. Wulaw Horn

    Wulaw Horn Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,833
    Likes Received:
    7,085
    Vlad just shouldn’t be worth all that much as he’s making a bunch of money now and will make 30M next year. He doesn’t have a ton of surplus value. Maybe he gets kings ransom- I just don’t get it- if they aren’t eating a bunch of money. like- next year he might not even be worth his contract if he gets 30M in arbitration like I’d suspect as a super arb guy.
     
    ac in austin likes this.
  16. Htown Stros

    Htown Stros Member

    Joined:
    Aug 29, 2015
    Messages:
    6,579
    Likes Received:
    9,068
    They will trade Yandy or Paredes if the trade makes sense for them. I’d rather overpay for one of them than get Arozarena.
     
  17. Yordan The Great

    Joined:
    Oct 17, 2019
    Messages:
    6,694
    Likes Received:
    9,285
    I'd be happy with either Diaz or Paredes.
     
  18. Wulaw Horn

    Wulaw Horn Member

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2018
    Messages:
    5,833
    Likes Received:
    7,085
    Peña and Chas for Arrozarena and Paredes- who says no? Both?
    Altuve
    Yordan
    Arozarena
    Tucker
    Paredes
    Bregman
    Diaz
    Dubon
    Meyers.

    Bryce Matthew’s up next year and Dubon goes back to utility guy. Tampa saves some money. Gets their SS they want.
     
  19. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,734
    Likes Received:
    10,984
    I understand they will trade them if the deal makes sense.

    But with their salaries and years of control, on a team looking to compete next year not many offers do make sense.

    Yandy is under contract for $10M in 2025 and a $12M club option w/ no buyout in 2026. For a trade to make sense the return would need to be insane.

    Paredes has 3 more years of arbitration and only made $3.4M this year. He will be even cheaper than Yandy next year plus has one additional season of control. He would get a king's ransom in return.

    I can't see the Rays getting the kind of offer they would need to move them. If they do there is no way the Astros outbid other teams.
     
  20. IdStrosfan

    IdStrosfan Member

    Joined:
    Nov 26, 2021
    Messages:
    8,734
    Likes Received:
    10,984
    I think TB would have to consider it, but the time they would have wanted Pena is 2 years ago. He is entering arbitration next year, which is the time they trade away guys, not bring them in. (I already addressed Chas)

    I think they would prefer Matthews while a big market team like SF would prefer Pena.
     

Share This Page