[WaPo] The top Democrats calling on Biden to drop out of the 2024 election

Maybe they're on to something.

 

If I'm the Dems, I try and swear in Kamala as soon as possible, and then run hard on the First Female President/Girlboss/Women empowerment/Abortion narrative. Glowing profiles in Vogue/Cosmo, The View, etc. Maybe select a woman VP for an all female ticket.

It's a terrible strategy and may cause the bottom to drop out with male voters, but it's the least bad option for them.

 

I disagree. Harris will crash and burn. She's unlikable and a terrible speaker and debater. Plus. Who would want to attach their name to her ticket? Might as well stick with Biden imo

 

i said it a few weeks ago, but ill say it again. IF biden was to drop-out he would use illness as a pretext for doing so. claim he has some sudden health issue that will prevent him from running again. that would be the only way to save face and not make it seem like he was bowing to pressure from his own party. it would also allow the dems to spin it as "we didnt force him out, he had to drop out due to health...the party is unified".

this covid diagnosis might be that.

 

That's the prison of the electoral college, right? You have to appeal to a narrow set of states, not the rest of the country.

I don't like Gavin Newsom, but I think he'd creamed electorally while still winning the popular vote by a few million votes.

 

Is he eligible for FMLA?

 

Former president Barack Obama has told allies in recent days that President Biden’s path to victory has greatly diminished and he thinks the president needs to seriously consider the viability of his candidacy, according to multiple people briefed on his thinking.

Obama has only spoken with Biden once since the debate, and he has been clear in his conversations with others that the future of Biden’s candidacy is a decision for the president to make. He has emphasized that his concern is protecting Biden and his legacy, and has pushed back against the idea that he alone can influence Biden’s decision-making process.

Behind the scenes, Obama has been deeply engaged in conversations about the future of Biden’s campaign, taking calls from many anxious Democrats, including former House speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), and has shared his views about the president’s challenges, according to people with knowledge of the calls, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss private conversations.

A spokesperson for Obama declined to comment.

Obama sees his role as a sounding board and counselor to his former vice president, telling allies that he feels protective of Biden. In these conversations, Obama has said he thinks Biden has been a great president and wants to protect his accomplishments, which could be in jeopardy if Republicans control the White House and both chambers of Congress next year.

In some conversations, Obama, who has long looked to data for political insights, has told people he is concerned that the polls are moving away from Biden, that former president Donald Trump’s electoral path is expanding and that donors are abandoning the president.

Principal deputy campaign manager Quentin Fulks said Thursday morning that Biden’s campaign was moving ahead. “He is not wavering on anything,” Fulks said. “The president has made his decision. I don’t want to be rude, but I don’t know how many more times we can answer that.”

Pelosi has taken an even more active role behind the scenes, resisting efforts by Biden to end the debate about his continued candidacy, according to people familiar with her efforts, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive matters.

The Post previously reported that Obama has shared concerns about Biden’s path forward after the debate and that the two presidents spoke in the days after. But in the weeks since, Obama’s concerns about Biden’s candidacy have only grown deeper, the people familiar with the matter say.

Meanwhile, some of Biden’s aides have fumed about Obama’s role in these conversations, blaming him for not keeping the party united behind Biden’s candidacy. After the debate, Obama posted a supportive message on social media for Biden.

“Bad debate nights happen,” Obama wrote. “Trust me, I know. But this election is still a choice between someone who has fought for ordinary folks his entire life and someone who only cares about himself.”

Since then, Obama has largely been silent publicly. But Biden aides say Obama could have stopped Academy Award-winning actor George Clooney, a close friend of the former president, from writing an op-ed in the New York Times that called on Biden to drop out of the presidential race.

Movie mogul Jeffrey Katzenberg, a top Biden campaign official, sought to stop Clooney, a longtime friend of his, from publishing the piece but was unsuccessful, according to a person familiar with his outreach.

 

Jon Stewart should replace Biden.

 

I think a lot of democrats believe this, but not in our century. It's about being clickable and zinging and understanding the attention economy (which I do not, but I know Trump and FOX seem to understand it deeply).

 

i think he would win if he ran. a debate between him and trump would be hilarious. trumps insult comic routine would go down in flames against an actual comedian.

i dont see harris beating trump. she is even less popular than biden.

if theyre going to go with someone else it needs to be a middle-aged white guy with a working/middle class background...someone like jon stewart, haha.

speaking of stewart, did anyone else catch his interview with bill oreilly a couple nights ago...oreilly is a scumbag, but he actually came off as somewhat likeable here. him and stewart have a great back-and-forth.

 

While I think Harris would probably lose, she has a better shot than Biden at this point, and the only way she becomes more popular is exactly this kind of situation -- the democratic electorate basically forces Joe to accept reality and Harris is pushed to the front of the stage with just a few months to go. Might generate more sympathy than she'd ever get otherwise. Don't underrate the extent to which Americans love an underdog and/or come-from-behind story. They also like new shiny objects and new shiny situations.

 

did it happen yet? he should do it today, at 8pm

President Biden may soon exit race, top Democrats believe (axios.com)
Top Dems now believe Biden will exit


Several top Democrats privately tell us the rising pressure of party congressional leaders and close friends will persuade President Biden to decide to drop out of the presidential race, as soon as this weekend.

 

Stupid question but here goes.

Can Obama be Harris's VP running mate?
He could call the shots and Harris would be his puppet. Just could not think of a better term.
If this is legal what would happen if she became incapacitated in some way?

 

I suspect Mick Jagger's lifetime drug intake is merely a fraction of Trump's.

 

Keith Richard's says hold my beer.

 

'We're close to the end': Biden world braces for the possibility that the president steps aside

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...braces-possibility-president-steps-rcna162494

 

Now that would be some got-damned strategery.

 

There's a big difference between a lifetime's worth of cocaine, weed, etc...and statins, ivermectin, and bleach up the bum hole.

 

if biden is going to drop out he should announce it 5 minutes before trump gives his speech. it would totally steal the attention from trump which will piss him off more than anything. and trump wouldnt have enough time to change his speech to address his leaving.