Biden prepping to endorse sweeping changes to Supreme Court

It wasn't, if people had actually paid attention (most didn't, now many more do). The only thing that kept it in balance was that there were enough "moderates" to avoid extreme decisions, but that was on such a delicate balance scale that it was sooner or later going to tip over. I'm sure you recall conservatives being very concerned and outspoken about a powerful activist court.

 

I recall conservatives forming the Federalist Society in 1982 and beginning a long-term project of developing and cultivating conservative jurists with an eye to eventually placing those jurists in the judiciary in accordance to the widely-accepted rules of the game. I recall as well that they did not attempt to change the rules of the game.

 

They have played very well.

I don't think you have refuted my original point or the follow-up.

 

no, perhaps not. But my point is simply that conservatives identified a problem and addressed it. I believe they have (for the most part) acted with integrity since 1982. I do not fault them for accomplishing many if not most of their original aims.

 

EDIT: let me make some corrections

I see it this way: They identify issues, and instead of solving them, they become the beneficiaries of those issues in the short term. They are now out of power as well.

(as a side note, I blame Obama; seriously)

 

not exactly sure I follow you here other than the RBG question

 

Reported

Spoiler

to the FBI

 

Obama had the golden opportunity to address some fundamental issues. He's a constitutional scholar. He knows where the weaknesses were, or should know. He preached an up/down road toward a more perfect union but didn't prioritize strengthening that more perfect path. Yes, I put a lot of expectations on him and saw him as too young, too inexperienced.

 

I had high hopes in the first term but that had disappeared by 2012.

 

Obama ****ed up. So did RBG. RBG was selfish.

 

RBG was a patriot

 

RBG: Après moi, le déluge

 

that reminds me I gotta get back to Duolingo

 

The process to change (slavery and universal suffrage) is in the hands of the 6-3 majority, who have invented Presidential Immunity from whole cloth and who have completely ignored the strict textual reading of the S2 14A.

 

Fox News Poll: Supreme Court approval rating drops to record low

Two weeks after the Supreme Court ruled in favor of presidential immunity, the latest Fox News national survey finds voters disapprove not only of that decision, but also think the court is too conservative, and that partisanship plays a role in decisions.

In addition, a new low 38% approve of the job the Supreme Court is doing, down 3 points from April 2023 (41%) and down 20 points from a high of 58% in March 2017.

Sixty percent disapprove of the court’s performance, a high point.

Since 2017, approval of the court is down 48 points among Democrats and down 29 points among independents, while approval has increased 12 points among Republicans.

By a 16-point margin, men are more likely than women to approve of the court, and by a 17-point spread voters ages 65 & over are more likely than those under 30 to approve.

On July 1, in a historic decision, the high court ruled former presidents are immune from criminal prosecution for official actions taken while in office.

FOX NEWS POLL: ABORTION, ECONOMY, AND BORDER SECURITY ARE TOP DEAL-BREAKERS IN 2024 ELECTIONS

The survey, released Tuesday, finds a 56% majority of voters disapprove of the immunity decision. That includes 8 in 10 Democrats (82%), 7 in 10 independents (68%), and nearly 3 in 10 Republicans (27%).

Overall, 41% approve of the immunity decision.

The survey was conducted after the presidential immunity ruling but before a Florida judge dismissed the federal indictment against former President Donald Trump on charges of mishandling classified documents.

A record high 45% think the Supreme Court is too conservative, up from 34% two years ago and a low of 16% in July 2015 and April 2010.

In July 2015, a high point of 45% felt the court was too liberal compared to just 19% today.

One-third thinks the court strikes the right balance (33%), down from a record 47% in 2017.

About 8 in 10 favor establishing a mandatory retirement age for the justices (81% favor) as well as limiting them to an 18-year term (78%). Both numbers are up by double-digits since July 2022 (71% and 66% respectively), shortly after the court overturned the landmark case, Roe v. Wade.

Since 2022, support for the proposals is up across demographic groups, most notably Republicans (+17 term limits, +15 mandatory retirement age).

In general, more than 8 in 10 voters think partisanship plays a role at least some of the time when justices are deciding cases (83%). While most partisans agree political views play a role, more Democrats (88%) feel that way than Republicans (78%) or independents (82%).

Meanwhile, the Supreme Court ranks near the middle of voter concerns.

Seven in 10 (71%) are extremely or very concerned about the Supreme Court, including 44% who are extremely worried.

That is about on par with illegal immigration (73%), abortion (70%), the Israel-Hamas war (69%), and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine (69%), but below voter concerns about threats to personal rights (89%), the economy (88%), health care (85%), threats to fair elections (83%), and higher crime rates and taxes (79% each).

For Democrats, the Supreme Court ranks 5th in concerns, but for Republicans it’s 10th and 8th for independents.

FOX NEWS POLL: VOTERS OPPOSE STUDENT PROTESTS, SAY THEY HAVEN'T MADE THEM MORE SYMPATHETIC TO THE PALESTINIANS

The Supreme Court & 2024

President Biden barely edges Trump as being seen as better to handle Supreme Court nominations (50% Biden vs. 47% Trump).

"The Supreme Court was a winning issue for Trump in 2016 when some traditional conservatives overlooked aspects of his personal behavior that they found distasteful and voted for him because of the promise of conservative justices," says Democratic pollster Chris Anderson who conducts the Fox News Poll with Republican Daron Shaw. "Now that Trump delivered a court that many voters don’t like, it could be a motivating issue for Democrats."

In a race where Trump (49%) and Biden (48%) are locked in a tight 1-point race, Trump receives slightly more backing among those who think he’d better handle nominations (96%) than Biden does among those who think he would (93%).

The survey was completed before Saturday’s shooting at a Trump rally.


Entire article: https://www.foxnews.com/official-polls/fox-news-poll-supreme-court-approval-rating-drops-record-low

 

No just put people on the bench who'd undo 200 years of precedent.

 

lol

 

"The raw observation that the Roberts Court has on many occasions flouted stare decisis is not in itself groundbreaking. Indeed, evidence tends to refute the notion that the Roberts Court has been any more inclined than prior Courts to overrule precedent."

The Thrust and Parry of Stare Decisis in the Roberts Court

https://harvardlawreview.org/print/...-parry-of-stare-decisis-in-the-roberts-court/

of course we see here all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation

 

It was well recognized in the legal community, even amongst liberal scholars, that the Roe v. Wade opinion was dubious/problematic/shaky [whatever word you want to use] and that to protect the abortion rights found in it, those rights should have been codified. That never got done.

 

I don't foresee a 2025 with a Biden presidency, a Dem House majority, and a Dem Senate majority. There would have to be a huge shift from today to get that outcome. By the current polling, the exact opposite will happen.

I have not seen any evidence the Thomas (or Alito) have been corrupted. Thomas has been the same since before he was ever elevated to the Supreme Court. I believe the same is true of Alito. I have seen no indication that they went against their prior stances in exchange for a bribe. Regardless of anyone's opinion on the matter, the remedy is clear (impechment). AOC has given it a try. I doubt her success.

I gamble infrequently (mostly poker). I am way up, well into the thousands in the black. I have a relatively decent track record at predicting future events. I have offered a $1,000 bet that democracy will not end no matter who is elected (win conditions for me being essentially the same form of government and a contested Presidential election in 2028). I will not offer another bet ($100) that the Supreme Court will not expand before 2028. Anyone is free to take me up on either bet, and I may entertain multiple opponents.