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Kamala is no joke; will vote for her again

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  1. Amiga

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    Yeah, because he's serious and self-reflective about toning it down. Bullseyes with AR-15s waving around isn't a mistake, though. Nor is the hogtie of Biden.
     
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    he becomes more likable to me when he acts fed up…seems to give him more energy
     
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    Do those 22 events include when he talked about picking Vice President Trump and introduced the leader of Ukraine, President Putin?
     
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    There are different versions. Some people have more tremors, some people more stiffness.

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    Well done President Biden.

     
  7. Os Trigonum

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    Biden seems upset that the media isn't just coasting along with him anymore. lol, welcome to Trump's world

    Biden snaps repeatedly at Lester Holt in combative NBC interview days after Trump assassination attempt: ‘What’s with you guys?’

    https://nypost.com/2024/07/15/us-ne...-trump-threats-have-curtailed-his-own-events/

    excerpt:

    “Lester, look, why don’t you guys ever talk about the 18, the 28 lies (Trump) told? Where are you on this? Why didn’t the press ever talk about that? Twenty-eight times it’s confirmed he lied in that debate,” Biden exclaimed.
    don't think the press has EVER covered a Trump lie. it's so unfair

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  8. Kemahkeith

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    You know what gives him energy.
    A bump from Hunters white house locker stash.
     
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  9. Os Trigonum

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    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4773874-democrats-defensive-media-coverage-biden/

    Democrats blame media for Biden's woes
    by Alexander Bolton
    07/16/24 6:00 AM ET

    Democratic lawmakers, feeling frustrated and defensive about their political predicament, are lashing out at the media for its relentless focus on questions about whether President Biden is mentally and physically fit to serve four more years in office, and how doubts about Biden have divided their own party.

    Senate Democrats had gotten use to the media spotlight on Capitol Hill being focused on former President Trump.

    Even though Trump hasn’t been in the White House since January 2021, he spawned more than enough controversies — ranging from his false claims that the 2020 election was stolen to his regular attacks on Senate GOP Leader Mitch McConnell (Ky.) to his indictments on 91 felony charges — to keep Republican lawmakers busy deflecting tough questions about the former president.

    Some Senate Democrats now fear that on top of their other problems, including inflation, uncontrolled migration at the southern border and Biden’s low job approval ratings, they’ve lost the media, at least for now.

    Sen. Chris Coons (D-Del.), a national co-chair of Biden’s campaign, got into a testy exchange with reporters when asked about fellow Democratic senators’ warnings that Biden could lose to Trump in a landslide.

    “Have any of you asked any of us about Trump’s demonstrable unfitness to serve?” Coons demanded of members of Capitol Hill’s press corps.

    “We have two men running for the presidency of the United States and for 10 days all I’ve gotten from any of you is questions about Biden and his path to victory,” Coons said, clearly irritated by what he sees as unbalanced coverage about the presidential race.

    He criticized media pundits for hammering away at Biden for his flubbed answers at the debate in Atlanta while largely ignoring Trump’s “lies” on stage.

    “Donald Trump’s performance at the debate? Shocking. Filled with lies,” Coons said. “How many days have you asked me about … Trump? Given this NATO week, given we all just met with Zelensky.”

    Coons criticized reporters for putting too much focus on a few senators, such as Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), who said Biden is headed for defeat in November, arguing they represent only a small minority of the Democratic caucus.

    “Have there been a dozen others who have come forth and said now that Michael has said that, they share the same view? I don’t think so,” he said.

    Republicans appear relieved that for the entire week after the July 4 recess, they were free to roam the hallways of Capitol Hill largely unbothered by thorny questions about Trump or any of the divisions within their own party.

    “I love it,” Sen. Thom Tillis (R-N.C.) remarked as he walked by a stakeout of television and print reporters camped outside the Judiciary Committee hearing room without stirring any interest.

    Biden took a shot at the media’s coverage of his race during a Friday rally at Renaissance High School in Detroit.

    “They’ve been hammering me because I sometimes confuse names,” Biden said, while the crowd booed at the mention of the national press.

    “You made me the nominee. No one else. Not the press, not the pundits, not the insiders, not donors,” he declared to the crowd. “I’m not going anywhere.”

    Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.), a Trump supporter, said earlier this month that Biden had “lost the media” and predicted his campaign is “toast.”

    Sen. John Fetterman (D-Pa.) accused journalists of “being offended” about Biden running for a second term, implying that the media are driving the story of the president’s political woes more so than what disillusioned Democratic lawmakers or disgruntled voters have said.

    “Joe Biden is our guy, he’s my guy and he’s the only guy ever to kick Trump’s a--. He’s the guy, I don’t know why everyone in your business seems to be so offended by that,” Fetterman fumed when he was surrounded by a pack of reporters after Democratic senators discussed Biden’s political viability at a lunch meeting off the Senate floor.

    One Democratic senator who requested anonymity to discuss Biden’s tough political predicament observed that the Biden campaign is scrambling to shift the focus to Trump but that the media and the steady stream of Democrats calling for Biden to drop his reelection bid have kept the spotlight fixed firmly on his mental and physical fitness.

    “His goal of course is to return the focus to Trump, but I don’t see how he accomplishes that when the American people and the press are continuously focused on Biden,” the senator said.

    “If the question is focused on Biden’s suitability and Trump’s kind of coasting along,” it’s going to result in a “huge drop in enthusiasm” among Democratic voters, the source warned.

    Senate Democratic Whip Dick Durbin (Ill.) complained it’s time for news directors and editors to move on to a new topic.

    Asked how much longer Democrats can go back and forth on the question of whether Biden should remain the likely nominee, Durbin retorted: “As long as the cameras show up and the reporters show up asking the same questions every single day.”

    “At some point, somebody at your station has to decide that there’s another issue,” Durbin told a television correspondent.

    The No. 2-ranking Senate Democratic leader scoffed at the idea that Democrats who have questioned Biden’s viability, such as Bennet, or who have called on Biden to drop his reelection bid, such as Sen. Peter Welch (D-Vt.), are driving the story.

    “It is you, come on,” he said to the correspondent and other reporters that swarmed him after a Judiciary Committee hearing. “The fact of the matter is this is the No. 1 story and has been for 10 or 12 days.

    “The reality is the American people, many of them, don’t understand why we’re paused on focusing on this instead of the issues that are important to their families,” Durbin said.

    “The bottom line is he’s going to be the nominee. He’ll be nominated in Chicago and we’ll move forward with an aggressive campaign to win reelection,” he insisted, adding he doesn’t think the party will change its ticket.

    Durbin argued that the media is blowing the story out of proportion by focusing on what he said is the relatively small number of lawmakers in both chambers calling on Biden to drop out of the race: one senator out of 51 Senate Democrats and 19 House members out of 213 members of the House Democratic Caucus.

    Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-N.Y.), a master of messaging strategy, has tried to sap the energy from press coverage about the divide within his caucus over Biden’s future.

    Schumer has deployed the same dry refrain whenever asked about Biden’s problems: “As I’ve said before, I’m with Joe.”

    That strategy has been undercut by some of his fellow Democrats, notably former Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), who went on NBC’s “Morning Joe” last week to suggest that Biden could still change his mind about running. She urged her colleagues to hold off on calls for him to drop out of the race until the conclusion of the NATO summit in Washington.

    it isn't fair

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  10. Commodore

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    dude is just trying to buy off voters at this point

    rent controls and price caps, never been tried before!

     
  11. rocketsjudoka

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    The attempted Assassination of Trump and the RNC have actually taken attention off of whether Biden should step down.
     
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    Entertaining as hell. So according to Stephen A, lawfare against Trump is dead. Lol
     
  14. mtbrays

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    What do you think the middle ground is? I honestly don't know, but there has to be some kind of middle ground between over-control like in Berlin and lack of control that leads to affordability crises in New York, San Francisco, DC, etc.
     
  15. ROXTXIA

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    Biden **** the bed so big in that debate that it cleared the room of Trump's lying. Which is saying something.
    Still, there was no pushback from the CNN anchors at all. Even Trump was surprised after the fact.
     
  16. AroundTheWorld

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    It's a very fair question.

    I'm mostly a free market guy. I think there need to be economic incentives to build more residential living space. Just capping rent unfortunately, even if well-meaning, leads to the opposite effect of what is intended. I believe that ultimately, everyone will be better off the more government stays out of things.

    That said, I do support creating social housing to some extent, to protect those who would otherwise be at risk of becoming homeless. Such housing exists in most countries, e.g. the council estates in the UK. While I am a free market guy, I don't want a compassion-less society either.

    I am not an expert on urban planning. I just think in general, overreaching government intervention mostly leads to more harm than good.
     
  17. Ubiquitin

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    Riding with Biden and Harris.

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  18. Os Trigonum

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    https://althouse.blogspot.com/2024/07/my-first-reaction-was-my-god-this-is.html

    July 16, 2024
    "My first reaction was, 'My God. This is' — look, there’s so much violence now and the way we talk about it."

    "I mean, the whole notion that there is this — there’s — there’s no place at all for violence in politics in America. None. Zero. And — we’ve reached a point where it’s — it’s become too commonplace, not assassinations, but to talk about it. For example, you know, the January 6th — you know, the attack on the Capitol, the — I — I — Lester, I got in this race early on in 2020 — for the 2020 race. I wasn’t gonna run again because I’d lost my son. I didn’t — you know? And — until I watched what happened in Charlottesville, Virginia. Those folks coming out of the woods with torches, carrying swastikas, singing the same Nazi bile that was accompanied by this Ku Klux Klan and a young woman was killed. And — and it was a bystander. And — the president — then president was asked, 'What do you think?' He said, 'The very fine people on both sides.' Not fine people on both sides. No excuse. Zero."

    That's our President, Joe Biden, asked by Lester Holt to describe his first reaction to the assassination attempt. Biden stumble and bumbled his way back to his happy place, the Charlottesville hoax!

    Quoted in "Transcript: Read the full Biden interview with Lester Holt on NBC News /President Joe Biden sat down for an interview with NBC News anchor Lester Holt" (NBC News).

    Holt goes on to question Biden about his saying, just before the assassination attempt, "It’s time to put Trump in the bull’s-eye." Biden responded: "I didn’t say cross-hairs." Yeah, we know. You said "bull's eye." Corrected, Biden justifies himself. He meant focus on Trump. Holt asks if Biden has "done a little soul searching on things that you may have said that could incite — people who are not balanced?" Biden's answer is all about the problem of Trump's rhetoric. And he doesn't want to have to worry about inciting violence: "Do you just not say anything ’cause it may incite somebody?"

    His administration is prosecuting Trump for saying things on January 6th that are said to have incited people. Before you cry out for your freedom to say things that might incite somebody, pardon Trump.

    Holt reminds Biden that he's said that everyone needs to turn done the heat. Biden responds:

    Oh, no, no, no, no. Look, what I’m turning down — we have to stop the whole notion that there are certain things that are contrary to our — our democracy that we’re for. The idea of saying that you — “I didn’t win the election” when every court in the land — every court in the land, 120 appeals said — and including this conservative Supreme Court said we won, the idea about having — a loyalty pledge from all the folks who are in the Republican MAGA — not all Republicans, the MAGA Republicans saying that, “No, we lost the election,” inflaming the people to say — I — you — I mean —
    Holt cuts off the babbling to prompt him to return to the question: "What will you do... to lower down the temperature, the rhetoric out there?" Biden's answer is a reference to one of the "inflammatory" things Trump has said: "talking about people as being vermin and all."

    Later, there's colloquy about investigating the inadequacy of the Secret Service protection given to Donald Trump:

    LESTER HOLT: Is it acceptable that you have still not heard, at least publicly, from the Secret Service director?

    PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Oh, I’ve heard from him. I — I’ve —

    Apparently, he isn't even aware that the director of the Secret Service is a woman.

    LESTER HOLT: But have you heard from her publicly?
    A little subtle help with the pronouns from Lester Holt.

    PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: Publicly. I’ve sat down in the Situation Room downstairs. The Secret Service, the FBI, the national security agencies, the Homeland Security, all the major elements. And there’s two pieces to this, too. And it’s — it’s not an excuse. It’s just an ordinary explanation. There’s a major piece of this related to domestic and local law enforcement. They play a large role. And so there’s a different comp — I’m not saying they weren’t competent either. I’m just saying it’s a complicated process. And what has changed, by the way, Lester, is (CLEARS THROAT) you me, I’m — I like to meet people. I like to walk out, shake hands, move, look at people in the eye, see what they’re thinking. It’s really curtailed that ability on my part and on everybody’s part. And so because there’s a heightened notion that when you say there’s nothing wrong with going to the Capitol, breaking in, threatening people, a couple cops dying, hanging — put — putting up a noose, a gallows for — done for the vice — the former vice president, and you — and some — somehow you — and then you say you’re gonna forgive people for that, you’re gonna pardon ’em, that that was just a normal response, that is not — I have my entire career voted against and railed against and moved against the idea of violence is never appropriate. Never, never, never, never, never in politics.
    Did you follow that? Again, I see stumbling and bumbling back to a happy place — January 6th.

    I don't know if I can bear to go on, but the next part is about Judge Cannon's dismissal of the documents case. He observes that the dismissal was based on a defect in the appointment of the independent prosecutor, but he proceeds to talk about the merits of the documents case against him:

    PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I had an independent prosecutor look at me.... And they looked at me and concluded I didn’t do a damn thing wrong....
    That's not what they concluded!

    There follows a lot of talk about the 2024 race. Holt brings up Biden's bad performance at the debate and asks if Biden will do another one. Holt asks: "Is there a sense of wanting to get back on the horse?"

    PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: I’m on the horse. Where have you been? I’ve done 22 major events, met thousands of people, overwhelming crowds. A lot’s happening. I’m on the horse....
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    It also seems like good economics to have people live in cities they power. If you think about it holistically it doesn't make sense to have people commute 1-2 hours for low-paying jobs because they can't afford to live near their employers. They don't have time to pump that money into restaurants, shops, and other local businesses, because all of their money is going to rent and commuting.

    It requires a mindset shift from everyone. Houston is allergic to density and part of that stems from everyone thinking they should have a large house and big lawn. What good are those things if you're barely awake to enjoy them? Obviously weather contributes, but Houston's lack of walkable neighborhoods full of shops is a byproduct of its approach to housing.

    Another thought is that, for many Americans, their entire net worth is tied up into their home. When real estate becomes speculative and values shoot up, those who already own a home hold onto it for dear life and oppose any measure to increase supply i.e. cut down scarcity. I see it here in northern Virginia: prices are insane, but homeowners fight against any effort to reform land-use codes to allow for more construction. It's because their home has become a $2M nest egg and they don't want to see that value go down.

    I don't know the answer, but it's a fascinating and painful topic.
     
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    We probably often disagree on issues, but I do enjoy your posts. Thank you.
     
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