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[ official ] Trump for president 2024

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Roc Paint, Nov 27, 2020.

  1. HTM

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    And if a Democrat killed Trump wouldn't Democratic rhetoric be a large part of the explanation?
     
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    They’ve never been accurate about anything.

    We do know though that the mainstream media does know the person of interest because they are saying they know who he is, but are not allowed to say it yet.

    So we’ll know soon enough. Regardless of his name though they are reporting that his background and the situation is one that is perplexing on its face and is likely to setoff major investigations and conspiracy theories. Because having no ID, pulling off a pretty difficult shot within inches of his mark, having no manifesto, etc. etc… yeah seems like we are in for a cluster f of finger pointing, and conspiracy theories.

    (and yes I have my theories but will withhold)
     
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  3. Buck Turgidson

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    Sure, if there's any evidence of mainstream "Democratic rhetoric" advocating violence against political opponents.
     
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    Calling someone Hitler/Fascist Leader/Ender of Democracy isn't rhetoric that one could use to justify violence?

    Sure.
     
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    Who in Democratic Leadership has said those things?
     
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    Trump did try to end Democracy. He already tried. He plotted to hold up the election and have fake electors submitted in an effort to invalidate the actual real election and those votes. And no. None of that justifies violence.

    Trump did pledge to be a dictator on day 1 if reelected. Why shouldn't the media report that?

    Do you want someone to tell it like it is or don't you?
     
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    When you are literally running on ending democracy, is the political opposition supposed to lie to the voters that the other candidate is not running on what they say they themselves they are running on???

    I’m confused at what you want here? Trump is running on an anti democratic platform is he not?? He literally has been caught on audio and has been indicted for attempting to overturn an election. That just is what it is. Are you expecting Democrats or Republicans to just not bring that up in a campaign for fear that someone might confuse saving Democracy by voting with a call to assassinate that guy??

    Your logic here is really something and just shows that you are attempting to use a horrible event to score political points. Shame on you man.
     
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    I don't think I claimed anyone in leadership has. Though maybe they have, I'm not hanging on every word they say.

    Though certainly the claim Trump is Hitler/Fascist Leader/Ender of Democracy is regularly claimed by Democrats leadership or not.
     
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    Yes it’s also claimed by Donald Trump. He has literally praised Hitler according to his own staff. Is that something that if Obama did that Republicans wouldn’t mention in a campaign because they’d worry that it would inspire their voters too much??

    You are reaching too far here to score political points. Two things can be true.. Trump can be running to overturn Democracy/someone who admires fascists etc./ and this can also be a terrible incident that we all should condemn.
     
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    We had elections in 2018, we had elections in 2020, we're having an election in 2024.

    Get a grip. Democracy didn't end during the first Trump administration and only extremely hysterical people using dangerous rhetoric believe its ending in a second Trump administration.
     
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    It's true that extreme rhetoric from Democrats is creating a violent atmosphere and conditions.

    You for sure would say that if a Democratic politician was subject to an assassination attempt.
     
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    Democratic leadership hasn't run on extreme rhetoric. Trump has, and used it as President.
     
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    Why is this confined to "leadership" - We're constantly inundated with liberal media using hitler/fascist/ender of democracy rhetoric.

    In many peoples minds calling someone hitler/fascist leader/ ender of democracy justifies violence against that person.

    That's common sense.
     
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    Nice gaslighting attempt. They have elections in Russia too.

    Yes we had elections the past however many years. We also have seen exactly how elections can be overturned in the future and are trying to prevent that.

    Either you don’t understand or you are just trolling for sport. If you are here in good faith then you’d see that calling a Secretary of State and telling them to “find more votes” while also having your sycophants in Congress abuse their power to try and invoke the 12th amendment to overturn an election is kind of something you shouldn’t be mocking people over being concerned about.

    These aren’t hypotheticals. It really was something that happened and almost was successful. We also see a Supreme Court who literally just immunized the presidency. Again that’s not just me hyperventilating… their own words, and it’s a fact now that Joe Biden could use his power to illegally keep himself in office or benefit himself financially or sell out the country in a treasonous way. Again Joe Biden has the power of a king now but why is it that DEMOCRATS are the ones freaking out about it??

    Hmmmm… riddle me that.
     
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    No they are not. It’s not their fault for telling the truth. Donald Trump chose to inject violent rhetoric into our political bloodstream 10 years ago. He knew exactly what it meant and he did it with a huge grin on his face with his supporters fantasizing about Americans killing each other in a civil war all day every day.

    Democrats have never called for violence and you know that but are attempting to gaslight.

    Fck that. Democrats cannot cower to that level of bullying and have to continue to tell the truth and not fall for this gaslighting bs. No Democrat has called for violence and you freaking know that. This attempt is pathetic.
     
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    Trump had a first administration, we had mid terms, we had a presidential election. They weren't "Russian" type elections then but they will be in the future - sure.

    Yea, it is largely you hyperventilating and reading nightmare scenarios into everything instead of being calm and rationale. The Supreme Court immunity isn't blanket, it's qualified, stopping exaggerating.

    What a bunch of hysterics.
     
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    Calling someone Hitler/Fascist Leader/Ender of Democracy is a call to violence.

    Don't be obtuse.
     
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    Trump literally threatened a GA official and told him to find the exact amount of votes to overturn an election.

    He then had an entire plot, featuring electors, to overturn it. A plot that was ruined by his Vice President, Mike Pence.

    He constantly praises modern day dictators and proudly said he'd be one day one if re-elected.
     
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    This is kind of my point. Nobody should care what random idiots on twitter or clutchfans or wherever have to say.

    One party has a leader who openly advocates political violence. One does not. There is pretty stark difference.
     
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    And yet were still sitting here in a Biden administration after a Trump administration where free and fair elections were held.

    Calm down Susan, we will still be sitting in a Republic in 2029.
     

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