MAGA supporters: Why should I consider voting for Donald Trump?

We're ****ed either way and you know it.

 

Of course we are. We are in full MMT.

Would I rather see that MMT flow into development and tech or more government jobs, over priced inefficient education and to the medical cartel. Even @astros123 bragged about his grift on the medical cartel. If he thought it was legit, he wouldn't have sold.

 

Just the all around aggressively dumbest sounding poster here still in a way the other trolls have yet to beat.

Still after all these years can't tell if it's an act or not, but the mix of blaring ignorance and Internet confidence is a reminiscent of a certain someone, never far from his mind...

 

I'm all in on my crypto overlords.


You a NFT bro? You sound like one? Do you got any of those ape jpeg nfts?

 

How would funneling money into Space Force starve the MIC when Space Force is part of the MIC?

 

Hope and change.

 

Short answer: Vote for Trump to bring PEACE, PROSPERITY, LOW INFLATION, LOW TAXES, SECURITY

Trump will work to advance the following initiatives:

• Economic growth
• Lowering inflation (food, insurance, rent, clothing) and interest rates, which are killing the lower and middle classes
• Lower taxes (no tax on tips, lower corporate rate, lower rates overall)
• Secure borders
• Avoid wars where the USA isn't involved
• Rebuild American cities
• Restore democracy by taking an axe to the de facto 4th branch of government - the Administrative State (who are unelected and therefore unaccountable)
• Unleash energy dominance by promoting energy production -- thereby lowering energy costs for the American consumer
• Defend laws -- not use them as weapons against political opponents

 

This is where the mask maybe slips - either expert level trolling or genuine dumbassery? Who knows. Maybe even @Space Ghost doesn't know.

 

There’s no logical reason to vote for either. It’s a shame we can’t get some competent candidates.

 

Welp! You got me there, jim. Technically you are correct. 1 point for Judoka for being correct, but he loses it for missing the overall point.

 

not necessarily a MAGA reason, but Ross Douthat outlines four different Trump presidencies in an opinion piece today. If one calculates a near-100% chance of Biden dying/going brain dead/handing the reins over to Harris, etc etc etc., versus a one-in-four chance of "Trump the Moderate," then it would seem rational or logical to take the one-in-four odds for Trump and cast one's vote for Trump accordingly.

link will work for everyone:

From Moderate to Caesarist: 4 Scenarios for Trump 2.0

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/07/13/...e_code=1.600.UAg9.o2dNEzCeNIAK&smid=url-share

excerpt:

First, there is Trump the moderate. This has always been an underestimated aspect of his brand, because his moderation is united to excess and demagoguery. But Trump is not a movement conservative, not an ideologue outside of core obsessions like trade and immigration, and he no longer has to fear revolts from his right the way he did in the days when he felt the need to pick a religious-conservative Reaganite as his vice president.

Glance over the G.O.P. platform, focus on the substance rather than the capital letters and the Trumpian flourishes, and you can see outlines of the pitch the moderate version of Trump wants to make to swing voters. I’ll be right-wing on crime and immigration, but I won’t touch your retirement programs. I’ll be anti-woke and pro-patriotism, but I won’t be Mike Pence on social issues. I’ll keep the tax cuts I passed last time, but I won’t necessarily pile on more tax cuts for the rich. I’ll keep America out of unnecessary wars.

The moderate Trump could be a politically formidable president. He could inherit an improving economic picture and just tinker around the edges with tax policy, pick cultural fights mostly on issues where a majority is on his side and do a limited version of his more sweeping ideas — meaning a border wall and stepped-up deportations but not huge detention camps, or new protectionist measures but not an across-the-board 10 percent tariff. Like Bill Clinton, he could triangulate occasionally against his own activists, secure in the loyalty of his voting base.
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of course, the other three remaining possibilities are Trump the doctrinaire right-winger, Trump the imperial president, and Trump the great mobilizer of opposition. One might think that the one-in-four odds for any of these would be catastrophic; in which case one might choose to vote for Biden in a sort of "precautionary principle" avoidance of the worst case scenario.

But since political philosophers and economic theorists have shown precautionary-principle thinking to be irrational, that would not necessarily be as good a reason to vote for Biden as voting for Trump the Moderate would be.

One other possibility: voting for Trump the great mobilizer of opposition. If you are a Democrat or Never Trumper who detests Trump, you might well want to vote for Trump to reinvigorate the Democratic Party, which currently is flailing around and sinking fast. So in fact there are two good reasons to vote for Trump, in contrast with few or no good reasons to vote for Biden.

your mileage may vary. more at the link

 

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that’s where you you lost

 

moderate republicans are the worst of all flavors of presidents. Placating to a dem congress we get incredible spending and probably amnesty for millions of illegal aliens. I'd rather have Kamala and the GOP everywhere else to just lock up everything.

 

DeSantis would be a much better administrator than Kamala it isn't even close.

 

i dont dine with weatlhy mexican industrialists so correct me if im wrong, but arent low interest rates one of the causes of inflation? so can you explain how trump will both lower interest rates and inflation at the same time?

also, its pretty funny to me that the person who undermines faith in our democracy and our electoral process and also incited an insurrection against our government is the one who will "restore democracy".

and its pretty hypocritical to say that the person who says he wants to use his justice department as a tool of vengeance to go after his political enemies will "not use" laws as weapons against his political opponents. the guy who used "lock her up" as a campaign slogan and said "lock them all up" and called for the execution of general milley and also a televised military tribunal against liz cheney is the one you think will not weaponize the justice department. there is zero evidence that biden has used the justice department to go after his enemies and you have trump straight up saying thats exactly what he will do.

 

Why respond to SamFishers alt account?

 

1. Biden's runaway fiscal spending is counteracting the Fed's efforts to tamp down inflation using monetary policy. Trump will curtail the explosion in discretionary spending and this will stop undermining the Fed's work. Inflation will fall. Energy costs are a big part of real inflation... and are often excluded from the CPI calculation. Trump will unleash American energy production and electricity, gasoline, diesel, home heating oil prices will fall.

2. There was no insurrection -- as per the FBI's conclusion. There were, however, 200+ federal agents there inciting the crowd that day. Draw your own conclusion... (as a note, this is exactly that the CIA does routinely internationally)

3. Biden has used lawfare to try to bankrupt and imprison his political opponents. That's a fact. Trump never did this while President. Now it's on the table, since the Democrats broke 250 years of precedent.

This is too easy...

GOOD DAY