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[WaPo] The top Democrats calling on Biden to drop out of the 2024 election

Discussion in 'BBS Hangout: Debate & Discussion' started by Os Trigonum, Jul 6, 2024.

  1. basso

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    left shark > left boot.
     
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    First it's the orange tan with George Stephanopoulos. Then it's the call in to his favorite mourning cable news talk show and now it's old man yelling at clouds.

    The dude is trying to get the GOP base vote of old white narcissist men. It could bea worthwhile tactic.
     
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    Anyway …
    He’s done. Could only go 45 minutes before completely falling apart.
     
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    The very soft voice is unsettling
     
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    Cue Van Jones crying.
     
  6. Os Trigonum

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    I gotta think tomorrow morning George Clooney is gonna publish a full retraction
     
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    now it's time for the real questions . . . well, gonna just walk off into the sunset
     
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    I don’t really have a problem with spoken miscues. I make those. Everyone makes mistakes when they speak but the general displays of age is disturbing. The way he speaks, the way he walks, the seeming brain fog he appears to get.
     
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    Anyways…
     
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    He reminds me of a person who is super high.

    That man is on some wild cocktails.
     
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    creepy whispers.
     
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    Yes Biden, please tell us. Who really is commander in chief.

     
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    I listened to the full press conference on the edge of my chair. Numerous times I leapt out of my chair to applaud as this skilled orator uplifted my soul!

    -Rocket River, probably
     
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    that didn't take long

     
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    Creepy whispers to normal to yelling to creepy whispers to well anyways…

    WE’RE THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA FOR GOD’S SAKE
    It’s not gonna happen
    Anyways
     
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    No one thinks that... No one
     
  18. Os Trigonum

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    we're gonna need a bigger thread

    Jaws__22Youre_gonna_need_a_bigger_boat22.jpg
     
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    CNN spoke with more than a dozen members of Congress, operatives and multiple people in touch with both Obama and Pelosi, many of whom say that the end for Biden’s candidacy feels clear and at this point it’s just a matter of how it plays out, even after Thursday night’s news conference.

    And if those two feel otherwise, several leading Democrats say, they need to say that clearly as soon as possible before even more damage is done less than four months before the election.

    Many of Pelosi’s colleagues are hoping that she can bring an end to the turmoil that has engulfed Democrats for the last two weeks. And to a good chunk of them, that end can come if and when she tells Biden that he has to drop out.

    Pelosi has spoken to Biden since the debate, but in the time since, the California Democrat has made clear that she does not see Biden’s decision to stay in the race as final. But she, through an aide, declined to comment further.

    Obama’s decision not to make any public comment for two weeks has left a number of leading Democrats feeling like he has left them flailing by holding to the same posture that has largely defined his post-presidency.

    But Obama’s deepening skepticism about his friend’s ability to win reelection is one of the worst kept secrets in Washington.

    When the history of this extraordinary two-week period of American politics is written, the fingerprints of Obama and Pelosi will be far more apparent than currently known, people familiar with the matter tell CNN, as the Democratic elders have served as a guidepost for a party in panic.

    “They are watching and waiting for President Biden to reach a decision on his own,” one longtime Democrat close to all of them told CNN, speaking on condition of anonymity to avoid being seen as disrespectful to Biden.

    Obama has been fielding more calls than he’s making, people who have spoken to him say. When he does talk to anxious Democratic donors and officials, he’s been listening more than talking, carefully avoiding taking positions that he assumes would quickly leak.

    That was also Obama’s approach to the call he had with Biden after the debate, which the current president has suggested to others included the former president being supportive of him riding out the turmoil. According to others familiar with the call, though, Obama stuck to his posture of being a “sounding board and private counselor.” He prodded. He played devil’s advocate. But he did not take a position.

    In conversations with some Democrats over the past two weeks, Obama has swatted away the notion that he could push Biden one direction or the other even if he wanted to, which underscores their long-running complicated, yet loyal, relationship. And it’s been complicated even further during their time apart: since leaving office behind – and their weekly lunches at the White House for eight years – the two have spoken far less than some of their advisers have often intimated.

    If the former president did try to steer Biden to get out, people who know Obama say, he is aware the prism through which it could be seen. Biden has written that he felt Obama was not encouraging of his jumping in late to the Democratic primaries in the months after his son Beau died in 2015. Though Obama believes that he was trying to help his then-vice president focus on his grief and not wade into what would have been an incredibly hard primary campaign against Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders, that may not be how another conversation would go.

    “Biden would say, ‘Well, Mr. President, you already used that chip in 2015 and it got us Donald Trump,’” speculated a longtime 2020 campaign aide. “I think it would harden him more.”

    Obama is also loathe to give Trump, who is forever triggered by him, any new material by getting actively involved.

    Obama’s hands-off approach — at least publicly — has been seen by some close to him as a way to keep his powder dry in case he needs to have a blunt, difficult conversation with Biden.
     
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